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jeanpierre 02-25-2017 04:30 PM

2017 NFL Combine - Saints Prospects
 
2017 NFL Scouting Combine - Indianapolis, Indiana (Again) - Tues 28 Feb to Mon 6 Mar

TV: NFL

Livestream: NFL.com


Who are five (5) prospects you really are looking forward to seeing? :bng:

jeanpierre 02-25-2017 04:33 PM

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Five edge rushers with most to prove at NFL Scouting Combine - NFL.com

1. Tim Williams, Alabama
2. Taco Charlton, Michigan
3. T.J. Watt, Wisconsin
4. Jordan Willis, Kansas State
5. DeMarcus Walker, Florida State

CheramieIII 02-25-2017 05:29 PM

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Who would name their kid Taco? Now Meateater that's a name!

hagan714 02-25-2017 05:31 PM

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Jordan Willis, Kansas State has my interest

jeanpierre 02-25-2017 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 737627)
Jordan Willis, Kansas State has my interest

Some are saying he's lasting to the third round, but I'm not buying it...

I got him once in the third round so far; fans and writers may not be GMs and Scouts, but they're all seeing the same thing...

Really like him or Watt for our second round pick...

halloween 65 02-25-2017 08:06 PM

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I'm really starting to warm up to Cunningham at OLB. 6'4 but his frame has room to put on a few pounds, can run with rb.'s and TE's.

jeanpierre 02-25-2017 09:39 PM

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triman 02-26-2017 09:31 AM

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The annual Under amour games.I am interested in the draft but the combine is really kind of boring.
I think that all the measurables are small part of the process. Players should be evaluated more on their film.
Given all the money and effort teams spend on the draft it still is a crapshoot.
Last year's draft appears at first sight to have been a successful effort.
I hope that holds this year as well.
Our teams talent pool is shallow on the defensive side and an obvious focus in this years Free agency and draft
The constant hope is you can find one of the rare players that are so talented and driven that they raise the level of others around them
I am speaking about the Ricky Jacksons Sam Mills type.
We all yearn for the star All Pro types ,however it sometimes players that are just good enough that change the complexion of a teams fortune. The Remi Ayodele and Jabari Greer that make a difference.
I have always liked that the FO has pursued all avenues to attempt to improve, Though players like CJ Spiller failed I like the fact that we tried. Darren Sharper was such an attempt that payed off.
I wait excitedly to see what they try this year.

jeanpierre 02-27-2017 10:54 PM

Re: 2017 NFL Combine - Saints Prospects
 
The combine can "reveal" more about players...

The tape is most important, but you have to have an idea of the competition they're up against...

Getting true height and weights is a big deal...

The high jump and long jump can reveal the kind of player's burst at the line...

A linemen who can't crank out the reps on the bench is a useful indicator...

And not just the times, but well a player looks in the shuttle moves is good...

I still think all the drills with the exception of the bench press should be done in full gear...

jeanpierre 02-27-2017 11:04 PM

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Five, well six, the Six guys I'm most interested in seeing...

LB T. J. Watt

TE Adam Sheheen

DE Jaleel Johnson

DL Eddie VanderDoes

FS Lorenzo Jerome

RB Elijah McGuire

jeanpierre 02-28-2017 12:50 AM

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2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects with my favorites highlighted (Updated 2017/02/27)

Note: Adjusted draft order for compensatory picks

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DE Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 12) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 12) RG Dan Feeney, Indiana; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 305 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 12) WR Cooper Kupp, E. Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 12) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 12) FS Budda Baker, Washington; Height: 5' 10", Weight: 192 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 10) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 10) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 10) DE Jaleel Johnson, Iowa; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 10) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 10) OG Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 307 lbs.

No. 118 (R4, 11) FS Lorenzo Jerome, St. Francis (PA); Height 5’ 10”, Weight 202 lbs.
No. 118 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 118 (R4, 11) CB Fabian Moreau, UCLA; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 118 (R4, 11) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 118 (R4, 11) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.

No. 154 (R5, 10) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 154 (R5, 10) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 154 (R5, 10) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 154 (R5, 10) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 154 (R5, 10) QB Davis Webb, Cal; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 229 lbs.

No. 196 (R6, 12) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 12) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 12) FS Xavier Woods, Louisiana Tech; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 12) OG Corey Levin, Tennessee-Chattanooga; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 306 lbs.
No. 196 (R6, 12) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.

No. 229 (R7, 11) CB Jeremy Cutrer, Middle Tennessee St; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 180 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 11) LB Calvin Munson, San Diego St.; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 11) DE Collin Bevins, NW Missouri St; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 229 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.

hagan714 02-28-2017 05:38 AM

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Mason Rudolph QB Oklahoma State 6036 235 4.77 #2 Jr
Christian McCaffrey RB/WR/KR Stanford 5115 205 4.48 Jr.

Brian Hill RB Wyoming 6002 219 4.57 #5 Jr
Wyoming does not throw to him. He stay in to block a lot. Is receiving a hidden skill set?
Chris Carson RB Oklahoma State 6005 215 4.52 #32 Sr
Well looks like my diamond in the rough is going to be on display

Isaiah Ford WR Virginia Tech 6012 190 4.49 #1 Jr
Jamari Staples, WR/KR Louisville 6026 195 4.45 #2 rSr
Jalen Robinette, WR, Air Force 6026 218 4.56 #9 Sr
Jonnu Smith, TEH-BACK, Florida Int. 6025 232 4.47 #87 Senior
Darrell Daniels TE/OLB Washington 6032 246 4.54 #15 Sr

Garret Bolles OT/OG/DT Utah 6052 296 4.97 #75 Jr (24)
Daniel Brunskill OT/TE/ILB San Diego State 6051 270 4.88 rSr #71
Sean Harlow OG/OT/C Oregon State 6041 310 5.17 #77 Sr

Nazair Jones, DT/NT North Carolina 6045 295 5.07 #90 rJr
Vincent Taylor*, DT, Oklahoma State 6021 310 5.07 #96 rJr


Taco Charlton DE Michigan 6052 272 4.87 #33 Sr,
Trey Hendrickson DE Florida Atlantic 6036 270 4.82 #9 Sr
Jordan Willis WDE/OLB Kansas St 6041 250 4.67 #75 Sr
Derek Rivers DE Youngstown St 6042 255 4.79 #11
Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga 6030 274 4.86 #93 rSr
Isaac Rochell DE/DT ND 6043 282 4.86 #90 Sr

Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR
Meds

Haason Reddick, ILB, Temple 6014 237 4.54 #58 rSr
Ryan Anderson OLB Alabama 6021 253 4.67 #22 rJr
T.J. Watt OLB/DE/TE Wisconsin 6042 243 4.65 #42 rJr
Jimmy Gilbert OLB Colorado 6036 225 4.74 #98 Sr
Marquel Lee ILB/OLB Wake Forest 6026 240 4.76 #8 Sr
Langi Harvey ILB/SLB/FB BYU 6015 252 4.77 #21 rSr

Tyus Bowser, OLB, Houston 6021 240 4.67 #81 Sr

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 195 4.48 #25 Sr

Kevin King CB/FS/SS Washington 6032 192 4.56 #20 Sr
3-cone time of 6.40 seconds???

Adoree' Jackson CB/WR/KR/PR USC 5105 186 4.43 #2 Jr
Fabian Moreau CB UCLA 5115 200 4.52 #10 rSr
Howard Wilson*, CB, Houston 6002 185 4.52 #6 rSo
Ahkello Witherspoon CB/FS Colorado 6021 195 4.59 #23 rSr
Treston Decoud CB/FS Oregon State 6020 203 4.54 208 #14 Sr

Brendan Langley, CB/PR, Lamar 6002 199 4.40 #21 rSr

Jabrill Peppers SS/FS/OLB/KR Michigan 6002 205 4.42 #5 rSo
Marcus Williams FS Utah 5116 195 4.56 #20 Jr
Eddie Jackson FS/CB Alabama 6000 194 4.53 #4 Sr
Obi Melifonwu FS/SS/OLB UConn 6032 216 4.58? #20 rSr
Josh Jones SS/FS/LB N.C. State 6021 215 4.56 #11 rJr
John Johnson FS/CB Boston College 6002 202 4.54 SR
Nate Gerry SS Nebraska 6015 220 4.58 #25 Sr
David Jones FS/SS/KR Richmond 6015 210 4.53 #13 rSr

Mitch Wishnowsky P Utah 6021 220 So 2019

jeanpierre 03-01-2017 07:57 PM

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Just gonna leave this right here...


Euphoria 03-02-2017 07:18 AM

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I disagree to a point.

You have to watch those combines especially the drills. I have watched the past 5 years seriously and the players I picked who I tought stood out have all made contributions in good ways for the teams that drafted them.

You take into account what the did in college and every aspect of the combine and interview and you hope for the best but to not look at the combine to help you make your decision is stupid.

ChrisXVI 03-02-2017 08:19 PM

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New Orleans Saints check out guards at the NFL Combine | NOLA.com

"Illinois State guard Cameron Lee said Thursday he has a formal interview scheduled with the Saints, while Tennessee-Chattanooga guard Corey Levin said he met with the Saints on Wednesday night in an informal setting."

jeanpierre 03-02-2017 10:32 PM

Re: 2017 NFL Combine - Saints Prospects
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738219)
New Orleans Saints check out guards at the NFL Combine | NOLA.com

"Illinois State guard Cameron Lee said Thursday he has a formal interview scheduled with the Saints, while Tennessee-Chattanooga guard Corey Levin said he met with the Saints on Wednesday night in an informal setting."

I've really liked Levin; he's raw, but there's some great athleticism there...

If I'm the Mickster, I sign Kevin Zeitler and draft Levin and groom him in four years to be the starter...

That's how you maintain high levels of your offensive line...

jeanpierre 03-02-2017 10:44 PM

Re: 2017 NFL Combine - Saints Prospects
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 738066)
I disagree to a point.

You have to watch those combines especially the drills. I have watched the past 5 years seriously and the players I picked who I tought stood out have all made contributions in good ways for the teams that drafted them.

You take into account what the did in college and every aspect of the combine and interview and you hope for the best but to not look at the combine to help you make your decision is stupid.

Last year really reinforced to me how valuable the combine is...

You had some players from 'Bama who were top 15, guaranteed...

Then once they were up against the best, individually, and not as that vaunted defense, their value fell off, for some to the second and third round...

The UConn Safety that Dallas took, Byron Jones, is another one; and he's been pretty special for Cowgirls - that world record in the standing broad jump at the 2015 combine...

Or Edge Rusher Noah Spence? Was slow as molasses in the shuttle drills; while he had 5.5 sacks, he only had 16 tackles on the season, only started 3 games and was non-existent against the Saints; now he may evolve eventually, but the combine exposed him and he fell from the Saints option to the second round...

And I'll keep bangin' me drum - do all the drills but Bench Press in the pads!

hagan714 03-03-2017 05:23 AM

Re: 2017 NFL Combine - Saints Prospects
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738219)
New Orleans Saints check out guards at the NFL Combine | NOLA.com

"Illinois State guard Cameron Lee said Thursday he has a formal interview scheduled with the Saints, while Tennessee-Chattanooga guard Corey Levin said he met with the Saints on Wednesday night in an informal setting."


Cameron Lee OG Illinois St. 6050 312 5.27 #78 Sr

Arm 33 7/8
Hand 10 7/8
Bench 18

Love these measurements. long limbs with big mittens. Needs to get into the weight room by the looks of it.
Round 8? or 7? or priority UDFA?

need keep an eye on the kid

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 738249)
Cameron Lee OG Illinois St. 6050 312 5.27 #78 Sr

Arm 33 7/8
Hand 10 7/8
Bench 18

Love these measurements. long limbs with big mittens. Needs to get into the weight room by the looks of it.
Round 8? or 7? or priority UDFA?

need keep an eye on the kid

Really raw Hagan. His footwork, more the athleticism than his discipline will need to be confirmed. I'd get him a workout session with Roushar and see if there's something there.

Like this interviews > The News-Gazette: Sunday Conversation: Cameron Lee...

K Major 03-03-2017 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738236)

If I'm the Mickster, I sign Kevin Zeitler and draft Levin and groom him in four years to be the starter...

That's how you maintain high levels of your offensive line...

Let's assume Kevin signs elsewhere, who is your Plan B at Guard?

How about Larry Warford? I understand he is a pretty good guard. Not in the Zeitler level, but still good.

lee909 03-03-2017 08:33 AM

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Would anyone kick the tires on either Chance Warmack or Luke Joeckel
Be best if brought in as back ups but both still young enough to get it together with the right coaching

foreverfan 03-03-2017 08:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 738038)
Just gonna leave this right here...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C53YdC6WUAElvjm.jpg

https://twitter.com/LSUfootball/stat...572548/photo/1
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...881542a9ab.jpg

brees84 03-03-2017 12:47 PM

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Dalvin Cook 40-yard dash : 4,50
leonard fournette 40-yard dash: 4,51 at 240lbs wow

K Major 03-03-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 738331)
leonard fournette 40-yard dash: 4,51 at 240lbs wow

That's some serious giddy up for man of his weight.

ChrisXVI 03-03-2017 01:33 PM

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WalterFootball.com: NFL Draft Rumor Mill

"The 2017 NFL Draft is very strong at the cornerback position and the Saints feel that they could land a good corner in the second round. There should be some pass-rushers available in Round 2, but the talent dropoff from the first-round pass rushers could be significantly greater than the difference at cornerback. In many years, there can be a run on pass-rushers, and the Saints think that is possible this year as well. Right now, it sounds like the Saints' preference is for Michigan defensive end Taco Charlton over Tennessee's Derek Barnett and Stanford's Solomon Thomas."

Seer1 03-03-2017 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738342)
WalterFootball.com: NFL Draft Rumor Mill

"The 2017 NFL Draft is very strong at the cornerback position and the Saints feel that they could land a good corner in the second round. There should be some pass-rushers available in Round 2, but the talent dropoff from the first-round pass rushers could be significantly greater than the difference at cornerback. In many years, there can be a run on pass-rushers, and the Saints think that is possible this year as well. Right now, it sounds like the Saints' preference is for Michigan defensive end Taco Charlton over Tennessee's Derek Barnett and Stanford's Solomon Thomas."

Yeah, like some reporter's gonna get true inside information as to who any team's really targeting in the draft. It's all misdirection and smoke and mirrors right now....

K Major 03-03-2017 02:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738342)
Right now, it sounds like the Saints' preference is for Michigan defensive end Taco Charlton over Tennessee's Derek Barnett and Stanford's Solomon Thomas."

Interesting ... Taco over Barnett and Thomas? I thought he was projected to go in the 2nd.

ChrisXVI 03-03-2017 02:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 738344)
Interesting ... Taco over Barnett and Thomas? I thought he was projected to go in the 2nd.

Could be nothing... could just be a smoke screen. Although, smoke screens usually involve players a little more highly coveted than Charlton so there might be some validity to it.

jeanpierre 03-03-2017 02:36 PM

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WillSaints81 03-03-2017 06:52 PM

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Well looks like McCaffery is off the list.

hagan714 03-03-2017 08:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 738384)
Well looks like McCaffery is off the list.

why?

WillSaints81 03-03-2017 09:49 PM

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He had the second fewest reps among RBs in workouts. I have to look it up, it was on my ESPN alert.

WillSaints81 03-03-2017 09:57 PM

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Christian McCaffrey's bench press skills didn't exactly impress at the Combine | FOX Sports

K Major 03-03-2017 10:18 PM

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Who really cares what a RB benches whose strength is his agility. Even between the tackles, it's about lower body strength His change of direction, route running and also had one of the fastest three cone drills in the history of the NFL combine.

Did you actually watch any of his drills?

brees84 03-03-2017 10:58 PM

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Bench press skills? lol

McCaffrey is legit. He is not average RB/WR. Dude could be day 1 starter at WR position. Think about that. That's scary good weapon...

nola_swammi 03-04-2017 02:49 AM

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Bench press is more like a reference point to endurance or stamina to blocking

ChrisXVI 03-04-2017 05:13 AM

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Yikes!

dizzle88 03-04-2017 06:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 738428)

Maybe he wanted to participate in the drills but they advised against it?

Let's wait until we hear more but it does sound quite odd.

lee909 03-04-2017 06:05 AM

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A heated argument
Who cares its hardly against the law is it.
So long as there was a reason behind it and he didnt started throwing abuse around so what. Ive had heated arguments with loads of people

ChrisXVI 03-04-2017 06:15 AM

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I'm hearing that his interviews were pretty bad and there was some concern about his state of mind and well-being. It's hardly nothing. When was the last time a potential top 10 pick got sent home from the combine for behavioral issues?


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