Brandin Cooks Trade Talks

jeanpierre · 03-14-2017, 12:52 AM

The Pats deal gave us two picks, but cost us two picks, but did yield an add'l first round pick and improved our fourth round pick...

The Titans deal would've moved us up six spots and gave us one high third round pick...

The Eagles deal offered us a Safety we let walk and a third and fourth round pick...

One lesson I hope Payton/Loomis take for this is when you reach for a player with two picks...

A) You better make it count; with Cooks, they did; with Jon Jenkins, they whiffed; with Vonn Bell, David Onyemata, jury's still out.

B) Unless you keep the player under contract for their career, you never get back their full value to acquire them.

dizzle88 · 03-14-2017, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...80727598362624

The Pats deal gave us two picks, but cost us two picks, but did yield an add'l first round pick and improved our fourth round pick...

The Titans deal would've moved us up six spots and gave us one high third round pick...

The Eagles deal offered us a Safety we let walk and a third and fourth round pick...

One lesson I hope Payton/Loomis take for this is when you reach for a player with two picks...

A) You better make it count; with Cooks, they did; with Jon Jenkins, they whiffed; with Vonn Bell, David Onyemata, jury's still out.

B) Unless you keep the player under contract for their career, you never get back their full value to acquire them.

Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better.

Euphoria · 03-14-2017, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better.

That deal had us trading away #11 and cooks just to move up to 5 is all.

The better deal is NE. We get to keep #11 and get a first rounder.

K Major · 03-14-2017, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

That deal had us trading away #11 and cooks just to move up to 5 is all.

The better deal is NE. We get to keep #11 and get a first rounder.

+1. I'd rather have 11 and 32 than just 5. An extra 3rd without having to give up our 4th makes it a difficult call, but I still rather the NE offer.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better.

The "Titans deal" was nothing but speculation on what they could offer through the media. Any true offers were made behind closed doors. You are taking speculation as fact.

jeanpierre · 03-14-2017, 01:04 AM

Have to question Loomis' inability to develop a trade market where other GMs seem to thrive...

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Have to question Loomis' inability to develop a trade market where other GMs seem to thrive...

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...79246325444609

You can't compare the market between now and 2013. You can only get what the current market demands. The only other option would have been to keep a disgruntled Cooks. If that was all NE was willing to give then no GM in history could have gotten more. That's how economics work.

lee909 · 03-14-2017, 02:12 AM

In s draft this deep giving up 1 for 1 first rounders and gaining a third wasnt a better offer.

The teams needs plenty of help snd two firsts in better than t and a third. There will still be high class talent at 11 and at 32 compared to 90 odd

Audiotom · 03-14-2017, 07:55 AM

are you kidding me?

our best receiver for untried draft picks shame

Euphoria · 03-14-2017, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

are you kidding me?

our best receiver for untried draft picks shame

Our best??? I don't think so. And he is one deminsional. He was our deep threat guy thats it... why do you think he was frustrated he wants to be more. We have role players that fit our system not a #1 or #2.

I get it he might have been your fav player and fav WR but he was expendable.

03-14-2017, 12:52 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Twitter The Pats deal gave us two picks, but cost us two picks, but did yield an add'l first round pick and improved our fourth round pick... The Titans deal would've moved us up six spots and gave us one high third round pick... The Eagles deal offered us a Safety we let walk and a third and fourth round pick... One lesson I hope Payton/Loomis take for this is when you reach for a player with two picks... A) You better make it count; with Cooks, they did; with Jon Jenkins, they whiffed; with Vonn Bell, David Onyemata, jury's still out. B) Unless you keep the player under contract for their career, you never get back their full value to acquire them.
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03-14-2017, 06:16 AM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by dizzle88 Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better. That deal had us trading away #11 and cooks just to move up to 5 is all. The better deal is NE. We get to keep #11 and get a first rounder.

03-14-2017, 08:08 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by Euphoria That deal had us trading away #11 and cooks just to move up to 5 is all. The better deal is NE. We get to keep #11 and get a first rounder. +1. I'd rather have 11 and 32 than just 5. An extra 3rd without having to give up our 4th makes it a difficult call, but I still rather the NE offer.

03-14-2017, 11:50 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by dizzle88 Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better. The "Titans deal" was nothing but speculation on what they could offer through the media. Any true offers were made behind closed doors. You are taking speculation as fact.

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03-14-2017, 02:01 AM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...80727598362624 The Pats deal gave us two picks, but cost us two picks, but did yield an add'l first round pick and improved our fourth round pick... The Titans deal would've moved us up six spots and gave us one high third round pick... The Eagles deal offered us a Safety we let walk and a third and fourth round pick... One lesson I hope Payton/Loomis take for this is when you reach for a player with two picks... A) You better make it count; with Cooks, they did; with Jon Jenkins, they whiffed; with Vonn Bell, David Onyemata, jury's still out. B) Unless you keep the player under contract for their career, you never get back their full value to acquire them. Well Well Well, it seems all this "the market sets the price" BS was untrue all along, the titans offered a higher pick and Payton gave them the middle finger and made the best team in the league even better.

03-14-2017, 11:46 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jeanpierre Have to question Loomis' inability to develop a trade market where other GMs seem to thrive... https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...79246325444609 You can't compare the market between now and 2013. You can only get what the current market demands. The only other option would have been to keep a disgruntled Cooks. If that was all NE was willing to give then no GM in history could have gotten more. That's how economics work.

03-14-2017, 02:12 AM	#8
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks In s draft this deep giving up 1 for 1 first rounders and gaining a third wasnt a better offer. The teams needs plenty of help snd two firsts in better than t and a third. There will still be high class talent at 11 and at 32 compared to 90 odd

03-14-2017, 07:55 AM	#9
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks are you kidding me? our best receiver for untried draft picks shame

03-14-2017, 11:49 AM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by Audiotom are you kidding me? our best receiver for untried draft picks shame Our best??? I don't think so. And he is one deminsional. He was our deep threat guy thats it... why do you think he was frustrated he wants to be more. We have role players that fit our system not a #1 or #2. I get it he might have been your fav player and fav WR but he was expendable.

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