Brandin Cooks Trade Talks

ChrisXVI · 03-08-2017, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Why should teams have to match what the Saints gave up if Loomis & Payton over paid to begin with?

And I realized as he said this, he was absolutely right; I remember (and posted often) this same sentiment...

I've been thinking that same thing this whole time. Everybody seems to think we should get at least what we used to get him. But here's the thing: Other teams don't give a damn what we invested in him. It's not their fault we traded up for him.

ScottF · 03-08-2017, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What if the Saints are willing to stand pat and keep Cooks through next season? It does not appear they are just giving him away for 1 draft pick who may or may not pan out.

then you have to go way back to pages 8-10 of this thread and look at everyone who was already apprehensive about trading him

foreverfan · 03-08-2017, 12:59 PM

If I were the Saints,

I'd give my #1 pick every year for a proven player with another team that is just 24 years old and has never had a serious injury.

Imagine how much better our team would be. This is why taking anything short of his true value doesn't make any sense.

Think of the turd players we drafted and it becomes immediately clear.

Rell&Gold · 03-08-2017, 01:04 PM

We didn't come to the Titans or the Eagles with the trade offer. Meaning we didn't have any real intentions on trading, so we have the upper hand in negotiations. You can give us(Saints) what we want for what we have that you want or you can keep it moving while we run it up with Cooks and they will still be looking for that WR threat.

lee909 · 03-08-2017, 01:05 PM

The Saints have told teams he could be available. That interest doesnt start without leaks

Euphoria · 03-08-2017, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

The Saints have told teams he could be available. That interest doesnt start without leaks

Not true... this started back in Dec. When Cooks took to social media not happy with the way he is being used.

That could get teams calling.

jeanpierre · 03-08-2017, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What if the Saints are willing to stand pat and keep Cooks through next season? It does not appear they are just giving him away for 1 draft pick who may or may not pan out.

It's definitely two picks or a first and a swap of mid round picks boosting the other pick up the draft for us at the least...

As I said in my earlier post on the thread, it's not because we have to recover what Payton/Loomis overcompensated for in the trade with the Chefs, but because of Cooks' value as a 23 year old Top 5 wide receiver who is a No. 1 wideout, despite his dimunitive stature...

It's just we have two No.1 WRs now and we need to spread the talent...

ScottF · 03-08-2017, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It's definitely two picks or a first and a swap of mid round picks boosting the other pick up the draft for us at the least...

As I said in my earlier post on the thread, not because we have to recover what Loomis overcompensated for in the trade with the Chefs, but because of Cooks' value as a 23 year old Top 5 wide receiver who is a No. 1 wideout, despite his dimunitive stature...

It's just we have two No.1's now and we need to spread the talent...

Exactly.

And how many more targets would he have had if we did not have Thomas? When your QB is Brees there will never be a true #1 WR

triman · 03-08-2017, 04:24 PM

At a minimum cooks is worth a # 15 draft pick according to NFL draft value chart.
I would not trade him for less than a #1 and a three or #1 and a player that could start on our team.
If we cant make that happen I would bail.
My Ideal trade would be #5 and #18 For Cooks and # 11 If I did my math correctly that would give us a +330 on the value chart or the equivalent of a # 25 2nd rd pick.
The Titans get a young veteran high character productive star receiver sure thing.

jeanpierre · 03-08-2017, 11:18 PM

03-08-2017, 12:58 PM	#331
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jeanpierre Why should teams have to match what the Saints gave up if Loomis & Payton over paid to begin with? And I realized as he said this, he was absolutely right; I remember (and posted often) this same sentiment... I've been thinking that same thing this whole time. Everybody seems to think we should get at least what we used to get him. But here's the thing: Other teams don't give a damn what we invested in him. It's not their fault we traded up for him.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by K Major What if the Saints are willing to stand pat and keep Cooks through next season? It does not appear they are just giving him away for 1 draft pick who may or may not pan out. then you have to go way back to pages 8-10 of this thread and look at everyone who was already apprehensive about trading him

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks If I were the Saints, I'd give my #1 pick every year for a proven player with another team that is just 24 years old and has never had a serious injury. Imagine how much better our team would be. This is why taking anything short of his true value doesn't make any sense. Think of the turd players we drafted and it becomes immediately clear. jnormand, spkb25, ScottF and 1 others like this.
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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks We didn't come to the Titans or the Eagles with the trade offer. Meaning we didn't have any real intentions on trading, so we have the upper hand in negotiations. You can give us(Saints) what we want for what we have that you want or you can keep it moving while we run it up with Cooks and they will still be looking for that WR threat. spkb25 and K Major like this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 The Saints have told teams he could be available. That interest doesnt start without leaks Not true... this started back in Dec. When Cooks took to social media not happy with the way he is being used. That could get teams calling. jnormand and spkb25 like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by K Major What if the Saints are willing to stand pat and keep Cooks through next season? It does not appear they are just giving him away for 1 draft pick who may or may not pan out. It's definitely two picks or a first and a swap of mid round picks boosting the other pick up the draft for us at the least... As I said in my earlier post on the thread, it's not because we have to recover what Payton/Loomis overcompensated for in the trade with the Chefs, but because of Cooks' value as a 23 year old Top 5 wide receiver who is a No. 1 wideout, despite his dimunitive stature... It's just we have two No.1 WRs now and we need to spread the talent... ScottF likes this.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jeanpierre It's definitely two picks or a first and a swap of mid round picks boosting the other pick up the draft for us at the least... As I said in my earlier post on the thread, not because we have to recover what Loomis overcompensated for in the trade with the Chefs, but because of Cooks' value as a 23 year old Top 5 wide receiver who is a No. 1 wideout, despite his dimunitive stature... It's just we have two No.1's now and we need to spread the talent... Exactly. And how many more targets would he have had if we did not have Thomas? When your QB is Brees there will never be a true #1 WR spkb25 and Beastmode like this.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks At a minimum cooks is worth a # 15 draft pick according to NFL draft value chart. I would not trade him for less than a #1 and a three or #1 and a player that could start on our team. If we cant make that happen I would bail. My Ideal trade would be #5 and #18 For Cooks and # 11 If I did my math correctly that would give us a +330 on the value chart or the equivalent of a # 25 2nd rd pick. The Titans get a young veteran high character productive star receiver sure thing. foreverfan likes this.
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