Brandin Cooks Trade Talks

jnormand · 03-09-2017, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

For what it's worth, here's Walter Football's take on this potential trade...

"Wow. The Patriots just spent big money on Stephon Gilmore, but their interest in Cooks is surprising, as Tom Brady seems to have an adequate amount of weapons. The Saints seem like they'd win that trade, as they'd obtain a legitimate shutdown corner. Butler would be huge for New Orleans' awful defense." -Walter

I agree he'd be an upgrade...but we still need help on the defensive line. What about Conner Barwin?

lee909 · 03-09-2017, 11:39 AM

Its a terrible deal
We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA.

If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is.

jeanpierre · 03-09-2017, 11:41 AM

jnormand · 03-09-2017, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Its a terrible deal
We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA.

If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is.

I've said it before, it seems like the Pats always get the good deal and the other team gets the **** at the end of the stick. They always come out on top. For all we know they put a first round tender on Butler because they already knew they were going to get Gilmore. Then they put the tender on Butler to increase his trade value to another team. I wouldn't put it past that front office.

Lord_Saint83 · 03-09-2017, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I agree he'd be an upgrade...but we still need help on the defensive line. What about Conner Barwin?

Barwin is too old and prolly wants to get more than he is worth but i do agree we do need help on the defensive line but all the really good linemen are all resigned, will have to get them out of the draft.

lee909 · 03-09-2017, 11:45 AM

2 or 3 years 8ml a year would be cool for Barwin as long as its only 2 years guaranteed. Add him and a Pass rusher in the draft and its a huge upgrade

voodooido · 03-09-2017, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I'm guessing there would be draft picks involved too? We'll see...

The pats would need to throw in at least a rd 5. Cooks has a small contract year and at the most 8 million next year when the pats pick up his option. Butler will cost us 10-12 million a year starting this year. Why this year? No way we make this trade less we have a contract worked out this year. So butler and a 5th I would take. He would strengthen this defensive backfield right away. Throw in fairley, a de and a guard we can go into the draft with a bpa again. No doubt in my mind butler is worth it but they need to get compensation for taking on that contract.

frydaddy · 03-09-2017, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I've said it before, it seems like the Pats always get the good deal and the other team gets the **** at the end of the stick. They always come out on top. For all we know they put a first round tender on Butler because they already knew they were going to get Gilmore. Then they put the tender on Butler to increase his trade value to another team. I wouldn't put it past that front office.

And with Sean's reverence for BB I feel like we're less likely to play hardball with them than with another team.. I dunno man, just gives me an uneasy feeling.

Beastmode · 03-09-2017, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Its a terrible deal
We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA.

If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is.

True. I would never make any deals with the Pats. Almost a given you are going to get the short end of the stick. All of these proposals are weak. Cook's is a damn good WR. No less than a 15th or go away.

jeanpierre · 03-09-2017, 11:46 AM

I don't think our issue has been cornerback, even with the backups playing most of the season...

Our problem was an ineffective, overpaid free safety and NO PASS RUSH...

03-09-2017, 11:38 AM	#361
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by ChrisXVI For what it's worth, here's Walter Football's take on this potential trade... "Wow. The Patriots just spent big money on Stephon Gilmore, but their interest in Cooks is surprising, as Tom Brady seems to have an adequate amount of weapons. The Saints seem like they'd win that trade, as they'd obtain a legitimate shutdown corner. Butler would be huge for New Orleans' awful defense." -Walter I agree he'd be an upgrade...but we still need help on the defensive line. What about Conner Barwin?

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Its a terrible deal We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA. If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is. jnormand, Rsanders24 and Beastmode like this.

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 Its a terrible deal We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA. If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is. I've said it before, it seems like the Pats always get the good deal and the other team gets the **** at the end of the stick. They always come out on top. For all we know they put a first round tender on Butler because they already knew they were going to get Gilmore. Then they put the tender on Butler to increase his trade value to another team. I wouldn't put it past that front office.

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Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jnormand I agree he'd be an upgrade...but we still need help on the defensive line. What about Conner Barwin? Barwin is too old and prolly wants to get more than he is worth but i do agree we do need help on the defensive line but all the really good linemen are all resigned, will have to get them out of the draft.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks 2 or 3 years 8ml a year would be cool for Barwin as long as its only 2 years guaranteed. Add him and a Pass rusher in the draft and its a huge upgrade

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I'm guessing there would be draft picks involved too? We'll see... The pats would need to throw in at least a rd 5. Cooks has a small contract year and at the most 8 million next year when the pats pick up his option. Butler will cost us 10-12 million a year starting this year. Why this year? No way we make this trade less we have a contract worked out this year. So butler and a 5th I would take. He would strengthen this defensive backfield right away. Throw in fairley, a de and a guard we can go into the draft with a bpa again. No doubt in my mind butler is worth it but they need to get compensation for taking on that contract.
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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by jnormand I've said it before, it seems like the Pats always get the good deal and the other team gets the **** at the end of the stick. They always come out on top. For all we know they put a first round tender on Butler because they already knew they were going to get Gilmore. Then they put the tender on Butler to increase his trade value to another team. I wouldn't put it past that front office. And with Sean's reverence for BB I feel like we're less likely to play hardball with them than with another team.. I dunno man, just gives me an uneasy feeling. jnormand likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks Originally Posted by lee909 Its a terrible deal We would have to give him 12-15ml a year to get him to stay after his tag. Just pay another FA. If the Pats are offering anything you know its loaded to them. It always is. True. I would never make any deals with the Pats. Almost a given you are going to get the short end of the stick. All of these proposals are weak. Cook's is a damn good WR. No less than a 15th or go away.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brandin Cooks Trade Talks I don't think our issue has been cornerback, even with the backups playing most of the season... Our problem was an ineffective, overpaid free safety and NO PASS RUSH... jnormand and frydaddy like this.

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