Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

burningmetal · 03-14-2017, 12:52 PM

We don't need Butler. We already settled in the Cooks deal, so why should we go and give the Patriots more of our assets for a guy who might be good? I don't really buy into the hype surrounding Butler, but even if he were all he is said to be, we don't have that big of a need at Corner. Breaux and Williams have to stay healthy this time, but that goes for everyone. We could sign Butler and have him tear his ACL in OTA's.

We just don't have that glaring of a need at corner to pay a high price for another. I'd be willing to give up some picks, even #11, for a proven commodity... If he were a legitimate pass rusher. Not for a corner.

frydaddy · 03-14-2017, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don't know if you guys realize how desperate we are. If we have another forgettable season Brees and Payton could both easily be gone. This season is it for righting the ship.

I get that, but I don't think he's the guy to help. I could be wrong, and if he ends up here I surely hope I am wrong. I just don't think he's what his reputation says he is. Didn't often line up against the opposing teams #1 WR, plays in a division with 3 awful quarterbacks, had a really good supporting cast around him, short-ish, slow-ish... too many red flags for my liking.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2017, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don't know if you guys realize how desperate we are. If we have another forgettable season Brees and Payton could both easily be gone. This season is it for righting the ship.

I agree that Loomis and Payton are desperate, but not because they have any fear of losing their jobs. They are desperate because they want to win.

ScottF · 03-14-2017, 12:58 PM

I'd be fine with 9 million a year and a second for a proven guy that immediately becomes our best corner. he might have other suitors and they can overpay if they want.
9 a year is barely top 15 money for a corner, and he just turned 27 last week

as for the #1 we might lose, this would obviously have to be a trade and sign, not a sign and get screwed

K Major · 03-14-2017, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I like him but not at the cost of our 1's.

I want to see who we could get in the draft that I would pass if I had to give up our picks.

Put on your GM hat for a second ...

Maybe most coaches feel Proven over The Unknown is too hard to pass up. No?

K Major · 03-14-2017, 12:59 PM

I know it's Ian Rappoport but take it for what it's worth...

On #Saints & Malcolm Butler: They’ve begun negotiations on a new contract & hope to strike a deal this week. Then talk trade with #Patriots

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 14, 2017

dizzle88 · 03-14-2017, 01:00 PM

You can tell what Belichek will most likely do though.

They could agree to a deal over the phone and then New England would refuse the offer, which means they get our #11 pick and we get this guy. Don't trade with them, Keep all 7 draft picks, we need them!

ScottF · 03-14-2017, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know it's Ian Rappoport but take it for what it's worth...

On #Saints & Malcolm Butler: They’ve begun negotiations on a new contract & hope to strike a deal this week. Then talk trade with #Patriots

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 14, 2017

smoke + cap space = fire

ChrisXVI · 03-14-2017, 01:14 PM

I'd be fine with trading our 2nd round pick.

Lord_Saint83 · 03-14-2017, 01:18 PM

I heard they were going to ask Armstead to convert his money to a signing bonus i guess this is why perhaps. Im fine with it as long as we don't go over 10-11 mil a year and only give up a second. There's a reason the saints are scheduled first it's not a coincidence.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! We don't need Butler. We already settled in the Cooks deal, so why should we go and give the Patriots more of our assets for a guy who might be good? I don't really buy into the hype surrounding Butler, but even if he were all he is said to be, we don't have that big of a need at Corner. Breaux and Williams have to stay healthy this time, but that goes for everyone. We could sign Butler and have him tear his ACL in OTA's. We just don't have that glaring of a need at corner to pay a high price for another. I'd be willing to give up some picks, even #11, for a proven commodity... If he were a legitimate pass rusher. Not for a corner. frydaddy likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't know if you guys realize how desperate we are. If we have another forgettable season Brees and Payton could both easily be gone. This season is it for righting the ship. I get that, but I don't think he's the guy to help. I could be wrong, and if he ends up here I surely hope I am wrong. I just don't think he's what his reputation says he is. Didn't often line up against the opposing teams #1 WR, plays in a division with 3 awful quarterbacks, had a really good supporting cast around him, short-ish, slow-ish... too many red flags for my liking. Rsanders24 and burningmetal like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't know if you guys realize how desperate we are. If we have another forgettable season Brees and Payton could both easily be gone. This season is it for righting the ship. I agree that Loomis and Payton are desperate, but not because they have any fear of losing their jobs. They are desperate because they want to win. shawnkytonk likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! I'd be fine with 9 million a year and a second for a proven guy that immediately becomes our best corner. he might have other suitors and they can overpay if they want. 9 a year is barely top 15 money for a corner, and he just turned 27 last week as for the #1 we might lose, this would obviously have to be a trade and sign, not a sign and get screwed rezburna likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by Euphoria I like him but not at the cost of our 1's. I want to see who we could get in the draft that I would pass if I had to give up our picks. Put on your GM hat for a second ... Maybe most coaches feel Proven over The Unknown is too hard to pass up. No?

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