Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

WW_Who_Dat · 03-14-2017, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Cooks - 23 years old, played 3 seasons

Butler - 27 years old, been in league 2 seasons

If the trade happens we get probably 3 years out of him before he declines, whereas NE will get more than 7-8 years out of Cooks.

Cooks is gone ... done ... finish ... that horse is dead ... you are trying to equate apples to oranges ... we need all the defensive tools in the bag we can get. "Be Happy don't Worry".

ScottF · 03-14-2017, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That means we give up our #11, automatically.

it doesn't, because that's not how it works. Look at Lee's post.
We get a deal with him in principle, and then call NE and work the trade (That second part is probably already done). He signs the 3.9 tender with them, gets traded to us, and then signs his new deal.
Zero percent chance we are giving up #11 for him in any scenario

halloween 65 · 03-14-2017, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Yeah, I'm just not really feeling the priority behind getting a corner at all, but if they are concerned about depth, I could see drafting one in the second round and using those two first rounders on more pressing needs.

But if they think they HAVE to have Butler, I wouldn't want to give up more than a 2nd, either. I'm as certain as I can be that they would trade rape us again, though.

We got a 1st and 3rd for trading Cooks and they got Cooks and our 4th. It's going to be interesting what NE wants? If he was all that NE wouldn't have gotten Gilmore and kept him. If the Saints wanted to pay big bucks why not pay Gilmore?

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2017, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'll bet you $20 Cooks isn't a Patriot in three years.

I'll take that bet.

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2017, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

He had coverge on Odell Beckham, Antonio Brown, T.Y. Hilton, and Emmanuel Sanders in those highlights.

Damn. He can locate balls better than Jenna Jamison

ChrisXVI · 03-14-2017, 07:41 PM

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AllSaints · 03-14-2017, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Pass...28 years old and wanting a long term deal....thats why NE went younger. I'd rather screw up a draft pick than to screw up a FA signing that going to cost us 13M+ a year. He a system player anyway.

What's makes him a system player ?

AllSaints · 03-14-2017, 07:57 PM

The we will only get 3 good years out of him saying cuz of his age ... we trying to win now people.... he will help us win now....

ChrisXVI · 03-14-2017, 07:59 PM

ScottF · 03-14-2017, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

The we will only get 3 good years out of him saying cuz of his age ... we trying to win now people.... he will help us win now....

He turned 27 ten days ago, so we are looking at 4-5 productive years

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,267 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by dizzle88 Cooks - 23 years old, played 3 seasons Butler - 27 years old, been in league 2 seasons If the trade happens we get probably 3 years out of him before he declines, whereas NE will get more than 7-8 years out of Cooks. Cooks is gone ... done ... finish ... that horse is dead ... you are trying to equate apples to oranges ... we need all the defensive tools in the bag we can get. "Be Happy don't Worry".

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by burningmetal That means we give up our #11, automatically. it doesn't, because that's not how it works. Look at Lee's post. We get a deal with him in principle, and then call NE and work the trade (That second part is probably already done). He signs the 3.9 tender with them, gets traded to us, and then signs his new deal. Zero percent chance we are giving up #11 for him in any scenario AsylumGuido and ChrisXVI like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by burningmetal Yeah, I'm just not really feeling the priority behind getting a corner at all, but if they are concerned about depth, I could see drafting one in the second round and using those two first rounders on more pressing needs. But if they think they HAVE to have Butler, I wouldn't want to give up more than a 2nd, either. I'm as certain as I can be that they would trade rape us again, though. We got a 1st and 3rd for trading Cooks and they got Cooks and our 4th. It's going to be interesting what NE wants? If he was all that NE wouldn't have gotten Gilmore and kept him. If the Saints wanted to pay big bucks why not pay Gilmore? nola_swammi and Rsanders24 like this.

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