Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

CheramieIII · 03-14-2017, 01:21 PM

If Loomis can work a deal that has little effect on the cap this season and we only trade the 3rd back to the Patriots then it's a great pickup.

Butler will improve our secondary dramatically and getting Sterling Moore to resign is a priority now. If we get both we will not draft a CB in the 1st 3 rounds but DE and OL.

brees84 · 03-14-2017, 01:27 PM

Butler is legit. Great corner in his prime. If this deal goes through then we will probably overpay. (draft picks and big contract) But I can't say he is system guy and just an average corner... (different game tape than some other BB products)

|Mitch| · 03-14-2017, 05:45 PM

blackangold · 03-14-2017, 02:30 PM

They just don't seem to get it...
We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush...

spkb25 · 03-14-2017, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They just don't seem to get it...
We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush...

dominating both lines has always been a fine way to win

dizzle88 · 03-14-2017, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They just don't seem to get it...
We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush...

In all fairness, besides Donta Hightower, there's really no one left to sign up front. That's why I hope we keep both 1st round picks, spend both on front 7 defensive picks.

rezburna · 03-14-2017, 03:18 PM

It's glaringly apparent that the Saints are trying to win it all this year while Brees is still here. They're going all out for it. I was concerned with us overpaying for Butler, but not so much anymore. If we make all these improvements and still can't go deep in the playoffs it's time to let Brees move on. That'll open up plenty of cap right there.

burningmetal · 03-14-2017, 03:28 PM

And obviously Drew Brees was a home run, but that goes without saying. They don't make ALL bad moves. They actually made some really good one's, once upon a time.

saintsfan1976 · 03-14-2017, 03:32 PM

For you stat geeks, in 2016 Butler was the #3 cover corner by PFF (91.1)

The stat website also listed him as the #4 overall corner (90.4)

That's far from being a "system guy". And if he signs we have the best CB tandem since Porter & Greer.

I'm warming up.

burningmetal · 03-14-2017, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

For you stat geeks, in 2016 Butler was the #3 cover corner by PFF (91.1)

The stat website also listed him as the #4 overall corner (90.4)

That's far from being a "system guy". And if he signs we have the best CB tandem since Porter & Greer.

I'm warming up.

Thanks for trying to butter up this Butler hype for the doubters, such as myself. But PFF grades are utterly meaningless. They have no ability to test for whether a guy is better because of his system or not. And when he isn't facing off against number 1's, how do you fairly compare him to other top corners? You can't. This is just one of many flaws with PFF.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by blackangold They just don't seem to get it... We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush... dominating both lines has always been a fine way to win

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by blackangold They just don't seem to get it... We should be spending money on guys in the front 7. Always over paying for skilled players. Would like to see what we could do with a pass rush... In all fairness, besides Donta Hightower, there's really no one left to sign up front. That's why I hope we keep both 1st round picks, spend both on front 7 defensive picks.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 For you stat geeks, in 2016 Butler was the #3 cover corner by PFF (91.1) The stat website also listed him as the #4 overall corner (90.4) That's far from being a "system guy". And if he signs we have the best CB tandem since Porter & Greer. I'm warming up. Thanks for trying to butter up this Butler hype for the doubters, such as myself. But PFF grades are utterly meaningless. They have no ability to test for whether a guy is better because of his system or not. And when he isn't facing off against number 1's, how do you fairly compare him to other top corners? You can't. This is just one of many flaws with PFF. dizzle88 likes this.

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