Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

We could always offer the 32nd pick we received from New England, a 4th rounder from this years draft, and a 2nd rounder from next years draft for Patrick Peterson.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

We could offer them a 3rd rounder and be done with it. We can draft someone with #11 or 32 or 2nd or 3rd who could play just as well as Butler. He won't resign with the Patriots for sure so he'll have to get off that 13-14 million a year or sign elsewhere.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

Rumors are nothing but speculation from media hacks with no more knowledge than we have. They are stating what they think could be happening.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

He isn't ON a 13-14 million figure. That was just speculation from media hacks. Geeze! Do some research or simply read the post where I showed exactly where those number originated. :rolleyes:

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

We don't agree on many things, but I'm with you on this. The Patriots just signed Dont'a Hightower to a 4 year/$43.5 million deal. That's roughly $11 million a year range. I know it's different positions, but I believe we could get Butler on a similar deal. I'd say 3 years/$32.5 million with over half of it guaranteed. That's like $10.5 million a year, which is reasonable for somebody with his body of work.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

On the other hand, Stephone Gilmore got 5 years/$65 million which is over $13 million a year. I don't know who would command the bigger price if they were on the open market together. Logan Ryan got a 3 year/$30 million deal as I'm doing the research and typing this. A.J. Bouye receiver $13.5 million a year. I'm going to speculate he's not going any lower than $10 million a year, but also not any higher than $13 million.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

You can't just get hung up on how much a player contract is per year; there's also:

• Contract Length of Time (Malcolm Butler is already 27 yo)
• Guaranteed Money (That's how much will be dead should it not work out)
• Percentage Allocated vs Team Cap Space (We've got some contracts coming due next season)

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

Butler and camp has stated he wanted to be payed as a Top 10 CB; which he's definitely earned and proved he deserves.

New England just had reservations about committing that much to their Superbowl hero.

Re: What should a trade for Malcolm Butler look like to you?
 

Obviously the Saints, specifically Sean Payton, Dennis Allen are not happy with their current crop of CBs and feel Butler improves the team.

Which leads me to these questions that Raymond and Mary Holder will probably not ask:

• Are there lingering health issues with cornerbacks currently under contract?
  
  
• Was there a performance evaluation that returned a conclusion that the position needed to be upgraded, current rostered players had reached a ceiling?
  
  
• Is there a periphery issue(s) with a player(s) that required a CB be brought in to replace a current player?
  
  
• Are the available cornerbacks in this heralded, historic draft class not as appreciated, positively graded by the Saints scouting efforts?
  
  
• Would it be fair to characterize the current Saints regime/Payton Tenure as one that avoids rookie players?