IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints

spkb25 · 04-26-2017, 05:40 AM

I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me.

Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick!

skymike · 04-26-2017, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat,

Have you ever been to Walmart?

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Have you ever been to Walmart?

Not frequently, but I teach special education and have been kicked, bit punched in the face, slapped. I have had my skin broke from scratching and biting. That child has a disability, but at the same time she never learned how to deal with not getting her way so she becomes so enraged that she physically strikes people. Do me favor Mike, and I respect you a lot, please don't pretend I do not know what kids are doing. Hitting them is not the answer. I don't understand how hitting your child teaches them anything other than violence and when someone does something you don't like you smack the **** out of them. Teach your children to deal with adversity and you won't need to beat them.

burningmetal · 04-26-2017, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me.

Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick!

A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people.

Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul.

Euphoria · 04-26-2017, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people.

Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul.

It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful.

I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well.

burningmetal · 04-26-2017, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful.

I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well.

Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline. That doesn't mean they have the right to tell another person what's right or wrong, unless it's something egregious. Talking only goes so far with a lot of kids. Without any real threat of consequence, how does talking to them teach them anything? In my opinion, there is a time for talking, and a time for punishment. I know the word punishment is hard for this current society to handle, because they automatically think in terms of abuse, but punishment, in and of itself, is anything that represents a consequence related to an action. Kids have to feel a healthy amount of fear that if they don't act right, they will either have something taken away, or be spanked, grounded, something. Just as long as it gets the message across.

It's how I was raised, and what problems I have are unrelated to any of that. I learned respect, courtesy, and I didn't fear my parents in any way other than the healthy kind of fear I spoke of, where I knew if I disobeyed them, I would get the belt, or have some privilege taken away for an indefinite period of time.

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline.

Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

burningmetal · 04-27-2017, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

I didn't say "any way they please". I'm obviously talking about reasonable measures. If someone wants to give their kids a "talkin' to", that's up to them. But for that person to then say that their way is the right way, and all other means of discipline are wrong, is not their place to say.

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

Love this Euph

04-26-2017, 05:40 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me. Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick!
	Your team stinks

04-26-2017, 05:43 AM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, Have you ever been to Walmart? hagan714, AsylumGuido, pherein and 2 others like this.

04-27-2017, 04:39 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by skymike Have you ever been to Walmart? Not frequently, but I teach special education and have been kicked, bit punched in the face, slapped. I have had my skin broke from scratching and biting. That child has a disability, but at the same time she never learned how to deal with not getting her way so she becomes so enraged that she physically strikes people. Do me favor Mike, and I respect you a lot, please don't pretend I do not know what kids are doing. Hitting them is not the answer. I don't understand how hitting your child teaches them anything other than violence and when someone does something you don't like you smack the **** out of them. Teach your children to deal with adversity and you won't need to beat them.
	Your team stinks

04-26-2017, 06:34 AM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't understand, why are kids allowed to be beat, but any other human that is hit in any fashion is considered assaulted? Why are children the only ones we feel it okay to hit? I don't hit my dog....this seems absolutely silly to me. Kids are growing up with a different sense of entitlement and lack of respect, I am in education and I see it. It is not because they are beat less, it is because they are placated and never have to learn to deal with adversity. Teach your child that things are not going to go their way sometimes and how to handle that. Doesn't require beating them at all. Just requires you to be strong and not give in. Nothing is harder than watching your child cry and feeling like you hurt their feelings, but there is no greater gift you can give them. Doesn't require beating them. Beatings come when you haven't taught your child correctly from the time they were small and now you can't handle the monster you created so you must go off the deep end and beat them. sick! A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people. Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul. frydaddy and K Major like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-26-2017, 06:41 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal A whipping is not a beating. Adrian Peterson might have gone overboard in that particular instance, but whipping, itself, is not a beating. You don't spank a child because they became monsters. Whoever said anything about monster children? You keep your kids from BECOMING monsters by disciplining them. Counting to three, putting kids in "timeout" or wagging your finger and saying "shame, shame" accomplishes nothing. You have to drive the point home early and often with kids so that by the time they are preteens, they have learned that you don't get your way by disrespecting people. Nowadays, kids are told they are delicate little snowflakes, well into their teens, and you can't do anything without them crying foul. It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid. Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful. I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well. Crusader likes this.
	E U P H O R I A

04-26-2017, 07:31 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by Euphoria It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid. Not saying that there is a kid out there that could use some tough love like that but you have to be careful. I also feel we put these NFL players on such a high pedestal and expect them to be perfect in every way and that is just wrong. You are entittled to make mistakes and you entittled to learn from them. Holding something that is and can be corrected and learned behavior to stop someone from earning a living is wrong as well. Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline. That doesn't mean they have the right to tell another person what's right or wrong, unless it's something egregious. Talking only goes so far with a lot of kids. Without any real threat of consequence, how does talking to them teach them anything? In my opinion, there is a time for talking, and a time for punishment. I know the word punishment is hard for this current society to handle, because they automatically think in terms of abuse, but punishment, in and of itself, is anything that represents a consequence related to an action. Kids have to feel a healthy amount of fear that if they don't act right, they will either have something taken away, or be spanked, grounded, something. Just as long as it gets the message across. It's how I was raised, and what problems I have are unrelated to any of that. I learned respect, courtesy, and I didn't fear my parents in any way other than the healthy kind of fear I spoke of, where I knew if I disobeyed them, I would get the belt, or have some privilege taken away for an indefinite period of time. AsylumGuido, OldMaid, frydaddy and 2 others like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-27-2017, 04:30 AM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline. Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

04-27-2017, 05:44 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit I didn't say "any way they please". I'm obviously talking about reasonable measures. If someone wants to give their kids a "talkin' to", that's up to them. But for that person to then say that their way is the right way, and all other means of discipline are wrong, is not their place to say. frydaddy likes this.

04-27-2017, 04:28 AM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by Euphoria It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid. Love this Euph

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