IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints

04-26-2017, 11:21 PM

I was beat with a belt and I deserved it. I was a rebellious hellion as a teen and ended up with an ultimatum...drop out of school and get a job or join the military. I choose military and it was the best decision I have ever made.

I have a 22 yr old son and a 20 yr old daughter. I can count on one hand how many times I had to hit my son and my daughter never crossed the line. Some kids (like myself( are more thick headed than others.

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid.

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spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline.

Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I was beat with a belt and I deserved it. I was a rebellious hellion as a teen and ended up with an ultimatum...drop out of school and get a job or join the military. I choose military and it was the best decision I have ever made.

I have a 22 yr old son and a 20 yr old daughter. I can count on one hand how many times I had to hit my son and my daughter never crossed the line. Some kids (like myself( are more thick headed than others.

Can you please provide why you Needed to hit a child?

Why can't you hit your wife?

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Have you ever been to Walmart?

Not frequently, but I teach special education and have been kicked, bit punched in the face, slapped. I have had my skin broke from scratching and biting. That child has a disability, but at the same time she never learned how to deal with not getting her way so she becomes so enraged that she physically strikes people. Do me favor Mike, and I respect you a lot, please don't pretend I do not know what kids are doing. Hitting them is not the answer. I don't understand how hitting your child teaches them anything other than violence and when someone does something you don't like you smack the **** out of them. Teach your children to deal with adversity and you won't need to beat them.

spkb25 · 04-27-2017, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything.

You're right, but no where in what you said does explaining them, teaching them mean you should beat your kids. If you can't beat your wife why on earth would you think it okay to beat your small babies?

Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent.

Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way.

burningmetal · 04-27-2017, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

I didn't say "any way they please". I'm obviously talking about reasonable measures. If someone wants to give their kids a "talkin' to", that's up to them. But for that person to then say that their way is the right way, and all other means of discipline are wrong, is not their place to say.

burningmetal · 04-27-2017, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

You're right, but no where in what you said does explaining them, teaching them mean you should beat your kids. If you can't beat your wife why on earth would you think it okay to beat your small babies?

Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent.

Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way.

I don't beat my child, or anyone else. Why are you stuck on that word? You can talk to kids all you want, but they eventually grow up, and are met with real life. Life isn't gentle, my man. All parents (if they are any good) tell their kids the difference of right and wrong. But people have a natural tendency to start to rebel when they get older and are met with a lot of peer pressure. And if all you do is say "now Suzy, you shouldn't be messing around with that", they'll say "ok", and then do it again because you haven't given them anything to fear. And that creates a sense of invincibility, where they just think they can get away with anything. That can lead to huge problems down the road.

Now that's worst case scenario, but at the very least you can expect that they will not treat people with respect, and that makes them not very likable people.

There are different means of punishment, and that's why I said people are entitled to their own way. But rest assured, talking only goes so far. Talking is where you set the boundaries, and it is not a form of punishment. When those boundaries are broken (and that time always comes eventually, to one degree or another) what do you do? Do you just repeat the same things? Where is the lesson in that? See what I'm getting at?

Now, my parents' way was to spank us, or take a privilege away. That didn't injure me, or hurt my mental psyche. My daughter is a little too young for me to be worried about her doing something truly bad. It's mostly just not responding in a timely manner of fashion when I tell her to do something, at times, or she gets too loud, or sometimes pouts a little bit if I have to say "no" to something. That sort of thing. I don't really have to get on her too much about anything, but those little things add up if not dealt with properly. You might not do things the same way I do, but that doesn't mean your way is right and mine is wrong, or vice versa.

In terms of teaching them how to deal with adversity, that is an entirely different thing. If your kid comes up to you saying they are struggling with something, you don't punish them for that. You help them the best way you can, by giving advice, talking about your own experiences, and just encouraging them. That has nothing to do with discipline. There are a lot of roles in parenthood, man, and it isn't black and white.

CharityMike · 04-27-2017, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Can you please provide why you Needed to hit a child?

Why can't you hit your wife?

I am not getting into this with you. I seen the discussion and added my 2 cents.

WillSaints81 · 04-30-2017, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

He beat his kids and paid the price. Time to go back to work full-time and get hit a lot harder.

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Well I was spanked, too, and it didn't make me abusive or get beat up. You're telling people, who got spanked as kids, how it would affect them when they just told you how it positively affected them. Think about that.

Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything.

Of course there is such a thing as going overboard with discipline. If someone can confirm that this wasn't an isolated incident with Peterson, then I'll call him out on it. But anything can happen in a one time deal. Kids are precious, and can be really sweet, but they can also drive you crazy at any given moment. You have to do the best to manage your emotions in that situation. I can also speak from experience that I don't always handle it the right way. I certainly don't beat up my child, but I have definitely gone overboard in the heat of the moment.

Look at all the people in trailer parks, living in poverty, living as low level socialization, not involved in things, etc.....almost all of those types were spanked and spanked their kids. You can still discipline a kid when he misbehaves without spanking. But also, you should teach kids to be good and kind to other people while also teaching them toughness by getting them involved in stuff like martial arts and sports.

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04-27-2017, 04:28 AM	#102
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by Euphoria It depends on the kid. I have a 9 year old almost 10 and I have yet to have put a hand on him. If you teach your kids right and wrong and take the time to talk to them it goes a lot better I find. Spankings are usually for parents who can't control there frustrations and anger and need to take it out on something or someone and that is usually the kid. Love this Euph

04-27-2017, 04:30 AM	#103
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal Everyone is entitled to their own way of discipline. Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit

04-27-2017, 04:31 AM	#104
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by CharityMike I was beat with a belt and I deserved it. I was a rebellious hellion as a teen and ended up with an ultimatum...drop out of school and get a job or join the military. I choose military and it was the best decision I have ever made. I have a 22 yr old son and a 20 yr old daughter. I can count on one hand how many times I had to hit my son and my daughter never crossed the line. Some kids (like myself( are more thick headed than others. Can you please provide why you Needed to hit a child? Why can't you hit your wife?

04-27-2017, 04:39 AM	#105
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by skymike Have you ever been to Walmart? Not frequently, but I teach special education and have been kicked, bit punched in the face, slapped. I have had my skin broke from scratching and biting. That child has a disability, but at the same time she never learned how to deal with not getting her way so she becomes so enraged that she physically strikes people. Do me favor Mike, and I respect you a lot, please don't pretend I do not know what kids are doing. Hitting them is not the answer. I don't understand how hitting your child teaches them anything other than violence and when someone does something you don't like you smack the **** out of them. Teach your children to deal with adversity and you won't need to beat them.
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04-27-2017, 04:45 AM	#106
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by burningmetal Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything. You're right, but no where in what you said does explaining them, teaching them mean you should beat your kids. If you can't beat your wife why on earth would you think it okay to beat your small babies? Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent. Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way.

04-27-2017, 05:44 AM	#107
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 Respect you metal, but no they actually do not. That is why there are child protection laws. So no, people are not entitled to discipline any way they see fit I didn't say "any way they please". I'm obviously talking about reasonable measures. If someone wants to give their kids a "talkin' to", that's up to them. But for that person to then say that their way is the right way, and all other means of discipline are wrong, is not their place to say. frydaddy likes this.

04-27-2017, 06:03 AM	#108
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 You're right, but no where in what you said does explaining them, teaching them mean you should beat your kids. If you can't beat your wife why on earth would you think it okay to beat your small babies? Guide them, teach them, show them how to handle the adversity. That is the role of a parent. Kids are resilient and just because they can handle a lot and still turn out okay doesn't mean there is not a better way. I don't beat my child, or anyone else. Why are you stuck on that word? You can talk to kids all you want, but they eventually grow up, and are met with real life. Life isn't gentle, my man. All parents (if they are any good) tell their kids the difference of right and wrong. But people have a natural tendency to start to rebel when they get older and are met with a lot of peer pressure. And if all you do is say "now Suzy, you shouldn't be messing around with that", they'll say "ok", and then do it again because you haven't given them anything to fear. And that creates a sense of invincibility, where they just think they can get away with anything. That can lead to huge problems down the road. Now that's worst case scenario, but at the very least you can expect that they will not treat people with respect, and that makes them not very likable people. There are different means of punishment, and that's why I said people are entitled to their own way. But rest assured, talking only goes so far. Talking is where you set the boundaries, and it is not a form of punishment. When those boundaries are broken (and that time always comes eventually, to one degree or another) what do you do? Do you just repeat the same things? Where is the lesson in that? See what I'm getting at? Now, my parents' way was to spank us, or take a privilege away. That didn't injure me, or hurt my mental psyche. My daughter is a little too young for me to be worried about her doing something truly bad. It's mostly just not responding in a timely manner of fashion when I tell her to do something, at times, or she gets too loud, or sometimes pouts a little bit if I have to say "no" to something. That sort of thing. I don't really have to get on her too much about anything, but those little things add up if not dealt with properly. You might not do things the same way I do, but that doesn't mean your way is right and mine is wrong, or vice versa. In terms of teaching them how to deal with adversity, that is an entirely different thing. If your kid comes up to you saying they are struggling with something, you don't punish them for that. You help them the best way you can, by giving advice, talking about your own experiences, and just encouraging them. That has nothing to do with discipline. There are a lot of roles in parenthood, man, and it isn't black and white. frydaddy likes this.
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04-27-2017, 11:23 AM	#109
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by spkb25 Can you please provide why you Needed to hit a child? Why can't you hit your wife? I am not getting into this with you. I seen the discussion and added my 2 cents.

04-30-2017, 11:25 AM	#110
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: IT'S OFFICIAL: Adrian Peterson signs 2-year deal with Saints Originally Posted by Beastmode He beat his kids and paid the price. Time to go back to work full-time and get hit a lot harder. Originally Posted by burningmetal Well I was spanked, too, and it didn't make me abusive or get beat up. You're telling people, who got spanked as kids, how it would affect them when they just told you how it positively affected them. Think about that. Do you have kids? If you don't, then you really don't know of what you speak. There is a reason that kids these days are spoiled, and think they know everything. They have a false sense of superiority and entitlement, because their parents don't have the guts to tell them when they are doing the wrong thing. And THAT is what leads to abusive behavior, as much as anything. Of course there is such a thing as going overboard with discipline. If someone can confirm that this wasn't an isolated incident with Peterson, then I'll call him out on it. But anything can happen in a one time deal. Kids are precious, and can be really sweet, but they can also drive you crazy at any given moment. You have to do the best to manage your emotions in that situation. I can also speak from experience that I don't always handle it the right way. I certainly don't beat up my child, but I have definitely gone overboard in the heat of the moment. Look at all the people in trailer parks, living in poverty, living as low level socialization, not involved in things, etc.....almost all of those types were spanked and spanked their kids. You can still discipline a kid when he misbehaves without spanking. But also, you should teach kids to be good and kind to other people while also teaching them toughness by getting them involved in stuff like martial arts and sports.

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