So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA

WillSaints81 · 04-25-2017, 04:52 PM

Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season?

hagan714 · 04-25-2017, 04:55 PM

no matter who you added it was always going to be a long season for the defense.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

no matter who you added it was always going to be a long season for the defense.

I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds.

We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.

Papa Voodoo · 04-26-2017, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

...You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past....We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.

A great example is the Saints' defense in 2013 vs. 2014.

hagan714 · 04-26-2017, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds.

We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.

It is the same ol story - time to gel

jeanpierre · 04-30-2017, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds.

We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.

I enjoy discussing draft, personnel moves as much as anyone, but as we said on the coaching thread...

There will be no bigger impact possible for this team than our new position coaches...

Mike Nolan has developed as many collegiate (Stanford, LSU, etc) and professional (Broncos, Giants, Ravens, Chargers, et al) HOF LBers as anyone...

Ryan Nielsen has impressive stops as a Defensive Coach including Ole Miss and NC State, absolutely transformed those defensive lines into ranked units...

And the return of one of the best WR coaches in Curtis Johnson, not to mention a long demanded change at Special Teams...

Can just still hear my Dad telling his brother-in-laws at family gatherings, holidays when Tom Landry's Cowboys or Bill Walsh's 49ers were winning -

"It's the Coaching, Stupid"...

Rugby Saint II · 04-25-2017, 05:05 PM

Actually, weed only have a couple of spots that really need an impact player. Once we clean everyone off of IR we will be looking a whole lot better.

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2017, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season?

Not smart to do with no idea what you are working with. But, that has never seemed to impede you.

Danno · 04-25-2017, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season?

We may still grab a FA CB or trade for one.

Why so negative and short-sighted?

AsylumGuido · 04-25-2017, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We may still grab a FA CB or trade for one.

Why so negative and short-sighted?

That's how he rolls.

04-25-2017, 04:52 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season?

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA no matter who you added it was always going to be a long season for the defense. Euphoria likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by hagan714 no matter who you added it was always going to be a long season for the defense. I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds. We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one.
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04-26-2017, 12:33 PM	#4
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ...You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past....We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one. A great example is the Saints' defense in 2013 vs. 2014.

04-26-2017, 05:19 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds. We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one. It is the same ol story - time to gel

04-30-2017, 11:50 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really don't think things are as dire as you think. You cannot project how this coming version of the defense will perform based upon the past. The stale LB and DL coaching of the past decade have been shown the curb. They have been replaced by far better coaches. The defense will also have the use of 2016 1st round selection the whole season, instead of the last few games. Kenny Vacarro shouldn't have to serve any suspensions, and it is not very likely that six DB's will suffer season ending injuries. We have also added A.J. Klein, who I am actually excited about seeing, and brought back the other R. Bush. Not to mention the impact of five picks in the first three rounds. We can very possibly field a very respectable defense come week one. I enjoy discussing draft, personnel moves as much as anyone, but as we said on the coaching thread... There will be no bigger impact possible for this team than our new position coaches... Mike Nolan has developed as many collegiate (Stanford, LSU, etc) and professional (Broncos, Giants, Ravens, Chargers, et al) HOF LBers as anyone... Ryan Nielsen has impressive stops as a Defensive Coach including Ole Miss and NC State, absolutely transformed those defensive lines into ranked units... And the return of one of the best WR coaches in Curtis Johnson, not to mention a long demanded change at Special Teams... Can just still hear my Dad telling his brother-in-laws at family gatherings, holidays when Tom Landry's Cowboys or Bill Walsh's 49ers were winning - "It's the Coaching, Stupid"... Barry from MS likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Actually, weed only have a couple of spots that really need an impact player. Once we clean everyone off of IR we will be looking a whole lot better. AsylumGuido and Rell&Gold like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season? Not smart to do with no idea what you are working with. But, that has never seemed to impede you.

04-25-2017, 05:42 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Let's go ahead and decide the fate of the defense next year. Is it another long season? We may still grab a FA CB or trade for one. Why so negative and short-sighted?

04-25-2017, 09:53 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: So now that we won't be getting a corner in FA Originally Posted by Danno We may still grab a FA CB or trade for one. Why so negative and short-sighted? That's how he rolls.

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