Post mortem 2017 draft

triman · 04-30-2017, 09:51 AM

CB Lattamore was a no brainer pick after a rash of offensive picks in the top ten..
OT Rameczk was a value pick .Most gurus had him in the middle of the first rd.Really surprised with pick of OK so early.Tackle depth was more critical than most thought. I am a big fan of picking good big guys and firmly believe that you win tackle to tackle He needs to come in and start to justify this pick.
FS Marcus Williams is quality player who made tons of plays in college gives quality depth and IMHO will win a starting job early.
RB Kamara is the joker back that Payton loves to create matchup with.expect him to catch a lot of screens ,run reverses etc... We have missed this dimension.Cadets days are numbered.Mark him now for your fantasy team.
OLB Anzalone Projects as a Will lb for the Saints.Athletic prototype player who has all the measurable traits Injury risk could be upgrade of healthy.We now have ten LBs on the roster. Special Teams is a place he could shine. Area of need pick.
ÐE Henderson productive at lower level ,great motor ,good measureables could be an effective tool.

I am disappointed that we didn't get a sure thing pass rusher . Otherwise it seems we added quality players at areas of need.
I would be talking to the JETS about Sheldon Richardson.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2017, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by triman

CB Lattamore was a no brainer pick after a rash of offensive picks in the top ten..
OT Rameczk was a value pick .Most gurus had him in the middle of the first rd.Really surprised with pick of OK so early.Tackle depth was more critical than most thought. I am a big fan of picking good big guys and firmly believe that you win tackle to tackle He needs to come in and start to justify this pick.
FS Marcus Williams is quality player who made tons of plays in college gives quality depth and IMHO will win a starting job early.
RB Kamara is the joker back that Payton loves to create matchup with.expect him to catch a lot of screens ,run reverses etc... We have missed this dimension.Cadets days are numbered.Mark him now for your fantasy team.
OLB Anzalone Projects as a Will lb for the Saints.Athletic prototype player who has all the measurable traits Injury risk could be upgrade of healthy.We now have ten LBs on the roster. Special Teams is a place he could shine. Area of need pick.
ÐE Henderson productive at lower level ,great motor ,good measureables could be an effective tool.

I am disappointed that we didn't get a sure thing pass rusher . Otherwise it seems we added quality players at areas of need.
I would be talking to the JETS about Sheldon Richardson.

What is a sure thing pass rusher?

foreverfan · 04-30-2017, 10:10 AM

ÐE Henderson will line up as a LB/DE for your pass rusher. Not a bad draft but
I AM SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE INJURY HISTORY.

SmashMouth · 04-30-2017, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

ÐE Henderson will line up as a LB/DE for your pass rusher. Not a bad draft but
I AM SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE INJURY HISTORY.

Thread repair needed here please!

SmashMouth · 04-30-2017, 12:12 PM

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Cruize · 04-30-2017, 12:14 PM

Lattimore - Most had as the best CB in the draft. Day 1 starter at a need position. Grade A.
Ramczyk - Some had as the top T in the draft. I think between Armstead's injuries and Striefs age, it was a great pick. Grade A.
Williams - In the beginning, he had a first round grade and was in the conversation as the best safety. Ball hawk and leader. Insurance in case Vaccaro leaves or runs afoul of the rules again. Will be on the field a lot regardless. Grade B+.
Kamara - All around RB. Had a first round grade by some. Ingram or Peterson will get nicked up sooner or later. Guy is a play maker. He will get quality touches and will produce. Spent next years pick on him and his role will expand next year. I would have preferred DE Willis though. Grade C+.
Anzalone - Extremely talented. High motor. Brings it. Has never made a tackle he didn't love. Injury concerns on his shoulders. Not good for a LB. Boom or bust player. Grade C+.
Hendrickson - High motor pass rusher. Not the greatest skill, size or strength. Grade C+.
Muhammad - Should have just let someone here make the pick. That pick would have had a better shot at making the roster. Players like OL Bisnowaty, TE Hodges, WR Davis, DT Qualls, WR Coley, DE Rochell, to name a few. Grade F-.

Cruize · 04-30-2017, 12:16 PM

Lattimore - Most had as the best CB in the draft. Day 1 starter at a need position. Grade A.
Ramczyk - Some had as the top T in the draft. I think between Armstead's injuries and Striefs age, it was a great pick. Grade A.
Williams - In the beginning, he had a first round grade and was in the conversation as the best safety. Ball hawk and leader. Insurance in case Vaccaro leaves or runs afoul of the rules again. Will be on the field a lot regardless. Grade B+.
Kamara - All around RB. Had a first round grade by some. Ingram or Peterson will get nicked up sooner or later. Guy is a play maker. He will get quality touches and will produce. Spent next years pick on him and his role will expand next year. I would have preferred DE Willis though. Grade C+.
Anzalone - Extremely talented. High motor. Brings it. Has never made a tackle he didn't love. Injury concerns on his shoulders. Not good for a LB. Boom or bust player. Grade C+.
Hendrickson - High motor pass rusher. Not the greatest skill, size or strength. Grade C+.
Muhammad - Should have just let someone here make the pick. That pick would have had a better shot at making the roster. Players like OL Bisnowaty, TE Hodges, WR Davis, DT Qualls, WR Coley, DE Rochell, to name a few. Grade F-.

The Dude · 04-30-2017, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

ÐE Henderson will line up as a LB/DE for your pass rusher. Not a bad draft but
I AM SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE INJURY HISTORY.

YeA I know! We have way more injury issues on defense than other teams. Especially in the backfield. I would almost pick health over talent at this point just to avoid bad Gris Gris . Maybe some of the coaching changes and ways they work out will help with health but it's been a consistent major problem. Yes every team has injury issues but not in the way we do. There is a reason why all these players at the same position get injured every year. One year ok,'two years a fluke, but after the third year you have to look for the common variable.

|Mitch| · 04-30-2017, 02:44 PM

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AsylumGuido · 04-30-2017, 02:49 PM

I am not concerned with the so called "injury history". In each case they are resolved issues. Yes, Anzalone missed the homeward stretch of last season, but it was with a broken forearm. Big deal.

Broken limbs heal stronger than they were to begin with.

04-30-2017, 09:51 AM	#1
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Post mortem 2017 draft CB Lattamore was a no brainer pick after a rash of offensive picks in the top ten.. OT Rameczk was a value pick .Most gurus had him in the middle of the first rd.Really surprised with pick of OK so early.Tackle depth was more critical than most thought. I am a big fan of picking good big guys and firmly believe that you win tackle to tackle He needs to come in and start to justify this pick. FS Marcus Williams is quality player who made tons of plays in college gives quality depth and IMHO will win a starting job early. RB Kamara is the joker back that Payton loves to create matchup with.expect him to catch a lot of screens ,run reverses etc... We have missed this dimension.Cadets days are numbered.Mark him now for your fantasy team. OLB Anzalone Projects as a Will lb for the Saints.Athletic prototype player who has all the measurable traits Injury risk could be upgrade of healthy.We now have ten LBs on the roster. Special Teams is a place he could shine. Area of need pick. ÐE Henderson productive at lower level ,great motor ,good measureables could be an effective tool. I am disappointed that we didn't get a sure thing pass rusher . Otherwise it seems we added quality players at areas of need. I would be talking to the JETS about Sheldon Richardson. Rell&Gold likes this.
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04-30-2017, 10:01 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by triman CB Lattamore was a no brainer pick after a rash of offensive picks in the top ten.. OT Rameczk was a value pick .Most gurus had him in the middle of the first rd.Really surprised with pick of OK so early.Tackle depth was more critical than most thought. I am a big fan of picking good big guys and firmly believe that you win tackle to tackle He needs to come in and start to justify this pick. FS Marcus Williams is quality player who made tons of plays in college gives quality depth and IMHO will win a starting job early. RB Kamara is the joker back that Payton loves to create matchup with.expect him to catch a lot of screens ,run reverses etc... We have missed this dimension.Cadets days are numbered.Mark him now for your fantasy team. OLB Anzalone Projects as a Will lb for the Saints.Athletic prototype player who has all the measurable traits Injury risk could be upgrade of healthy.We now have ten LBs on the roster. Special Teams is a place he could shine. Area of need pick. ÐE Henderson productive at lower level ,great motor ,good measureables could be an effective tool. I am disappointed that we didn't get a sure thing pass rusher . Otherwise it seems we added quality players at areas of need. I would be talking to the JETS about Sheldon Richardson. What is a sure thing pass rusher? CheramieIII likes this.

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04-30-2017, 12:14 PM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,452	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Lattimore - Most had as the best CB in the draft. Day 1 starter at a need position. Grade A. Ramczyk - Some had as the top T in the draft. I think between Armstead's injuries and Striefs age, it was a great pick. Grade A. Williams - In the beginning, he had a first round grade and was in the conversation as the best safety. Ball hawk and leader. Insurance in case Vaccaro leaves or runs afoul of the rules again. Will be on the field a lot regardless. Grade B+. Kamara - All around RB. Had a first round grade by some. Ingram or Peterson will get nicked up sooner or later. Guy is a play maker. He will get quality touches and will produce. Spent next years pick on him and his role will expand next year. I would have preferred DE Willis though. Grade C+. Anzalone - Extremely talented. High motor. Brings it. Has never made a tackle he didn't love. Injury concerns on his shoulders. Not good for a LB. Boom or bust player. Grade C+. Hendrickson - High motor pass rusher. Not the greatest skill, size or strength. Grade C+. Muhammad - Should have just let someone here make the pick. That pick would have had a better shot at making the roster. Players like OL Bisnowaty, TE Hodges, WR Davis, DT Qualls, WR Coley, DE Rochell, to name a few. Grade F-.
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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,452	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Lattimore - Most had as the best CB in the draft. Day 1 starter at a need position. Grade A. Ramczyk - Some had as the top T in the draft. I think between Armstead's injuries and Striefs age, it was a great pick. Grade A. Williams - In the beginning, he had a first round grade and was in the conversation as the best safety. Ball hawk and leader. Insurance in case Vaccaro leaves or runs afoul of the rules again. Will be on the field a lot regardless. Grade B+. Kamara - All around RB. Had a first round grade by some. Ingram or Peterson will get nicked up sooner or later. Guy is a play maker. He will get quality touches and will produce. Spent next years pick on him and his role will expand next year. I would have preferred DE Willis though. Grade C+. Anzalone - Extremely talented. High motor. Brings it. Has never made a tackle he didn't love. Injury concerns on his shoulders. Not good for a LB. Boom or bust player. Grade C+. Hendrickson - High motor pass rusher. Not the greatest skill, size or strength. Grade C+. Muhammad - Should have just let someone here make the pick. That pick would have had a better shot at making the roster. Players like OL Bisnowaty, TE Hodges, WR Davis, DT Qualls, WR Coley, DE Rochell, to name a few. Grade F-.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft Originally Posted by foreverfan ÐE Henderson will line up as a LB/DE for your pass rusher. Not a bad draft but I AM SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE INJURY HISTORY. YeA I know! We have way more injury issues on defense than other teams. Especially in the backfield. I would almost pick health over talent at this point just to avoid bad Gris Gris . Maybe some of the coaching changes and ways they work out will help with health but it's been a consistent major problem. Yes every team has injury issues but not in the way we do. There is a reason why all these players at the same position get injured every year. One year ok,'two years a fluke, but after the third year you have to look for the common variable.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Post mortem 2017 draft I am not concerned with the so called "injury history". In each case they are resolved issues. Yes, Anzalone missed the homeward stretch of last season, but it was with a broken forearm. Big deal. Broken limbs heal stronger than they were to begin with.

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