2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3

jeanpierre · 04-28-2017, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I'm assuming he just didn't play a lot of quality opponents. So he very well may be special?

He was a force vs Conference USA opponents...

The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first...

With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)...

Halo · 04-29-2017, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He was a force vs Conference USA opponents...

The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first...

With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)...

Great, so basically you're saying we draft t-rex?

foreverfan · 04-29-2017, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Great, so basically you're saying we draft t-rex?

If we drafted T-Rex... I say... he should eat the opposing team until he is full.

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I have an idea for our Cheerleaders too...

K Major · 04-29-2017, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

He was a force vs Conference USA opponents...

The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first...

With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)...

I'll just leave it here ...

Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32"

Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8"

If Trey develops proper technique, he will create space and openings to beat his man on a consistent basis.

Coach em up (see new D line coach Ryan Nielsen).

Seer1 · 04-29-2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'll just leave it here ...

Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32"

Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8"

Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too.

K Major · 04-29-2017, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too.

I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles.

I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher.

Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength

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dizzle88 · 04-29-2017, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles.

I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher.

Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength .

I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.

K Major · 04-29-2017, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.

Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick.

We're family here bro

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dizzle88 · 04-29-2017, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick.

We're family here bro .

Haha no worries dude, Nola.com have plenty of knuckle heads posting on their fan portion.

Let's hope we find a couple more gems in UDFA.

AsylumGuido · 04-29-2017, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.

Solidifying the pass rush earlier would have cost us a value pick. Which one of them would we sacrifice? As has been pointed out several times, we may have more than we realize already on the roster.

04-28-2017, 10:58 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by jnormand I'm assuming he just didn't play a lot of quality opponents. So he very well may be special? He was a force vs Conference USA opponents... The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first... With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)...

04-29-2017, 12:07 AM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,867 Blog Entries: 45	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by jeanpierre He was a force vs Conference USA opponents... The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first... With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)... Great, so basically you're saying we draft t-rex?

04-29-2017, 12:43 AM	#3
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by Halo Great, so basically you're saying we draft t-rex? If we drafted T-Rex... I say... he should eat the opposing team until he is full. . . . . . . . . . I have an idea for our Cheerleaders too...

04-29-2017, 11:34 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by jeanpierre He was a force vs Conference USA opponents... The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first... With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)... I'll just leave it here ... Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32" Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8" If Trey develops proper technique, he will create space and openings to beat his man on a consistent basis. Coach em up (see new D line coach Ryan Nielsen).

04-29-2017, 11:37 AM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by K Major I'll just leave it here ... Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32" Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8" Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too.

04-29-2017, 11:51 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by Seer1 Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too. I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles. I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher. Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength .

04-29-2017, 12:04 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by K Major I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles. I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher. Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength . I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better. I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.

04-29-2017, 12:09 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,796 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by dizzle88 I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better. I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier. Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick. We're family here bro .

04-29-2017, 12:19 PM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by K Major Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick. We're family here bro . Haha no worries dude, Nola.com have plenty of knuckle heads posting on their fan portion. Let's hope we find a couple more gems in UDFA.

04-29-2017, 12:25 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: 2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3 Originally Posted by dizzle88 I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better. I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier. Solidifying the pass rush earlier would have cost us a value pick. Which one of them would we sacrifice? As has been pointed out several times, we may have more than we realize already on the roster.

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