Who would you take?

saintswhodi · 03-25-2005, 03:38 PM

Brown\'s 40 was in the 4.4s, and he has better hands. The stud of this draft is Brown.

baronm · 03-25-2005, 03:47 PM

Ronnie Brown, definitely. Benson will be like Eddie George. Burning out early, you will see a definite drop in his production later in his career due to overuse early, high school and college. Earl Campbell syndrome. I would bet on it. Brown is faster, stronger, catches better, and has had less wear and tear over his career due to the presence of Cadillac, whom I think is simply overrated.

I\'ve seen cadillac in high school, college ad getting ready for the pros...he will be a pro bowl contender....but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him ala barry sanders.

saintswhodi · 03-25-2005, 04:00 PM

What? A line that will block for him like Barry who? Barry Word? Barry Foster? Certainly not Barry Sanders. That dude never had a good line. Maybe a line that will block for him like Emmitt Smith. I can agree with that.

baronm · 03-25-2005, 04:07 PM

true..sanders didn\'t have a great line...I guess what I was thinking was he is more of a finnesse back than a power back.

not a sanders caliber..but few are.

benson\'s attitude worries me..ronnie brown and cadillac also have not been used near as much....cadilac would be used in longer yarder situations and brown in short yards...brown is a better blocker and reciever, but cadillac just is so hard to get a handle on and has great game speed.

saintswhodi · 03-25-2005, 04:17 PM

I agree totally on Cadillac. He reminds me of a Brian Westbrook. Good at everything but not really great at anything. Brown I think can be a workhorse, due to the fact he didn\'t take too much of a pounding in college, he is 230, fast, and just hard to bring down cause of his power. Cadillac has better moves though and is more elusive. Of the 3, Benson would be last on my list. I have rarely seen him catch the ball out of the backfield, he has okay speed, and just how much he has been used up to this point worries me. I mean 5-6 good years is nothing to sneeze at, but what if he conks out sooner? Or is he is like Eddie George and barely ever has a season averaging over 4 yards a carry? That would worry me.

bignic26 · 03-25-2005, 04:18 PM

but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him

Thanks for that info Captain Obvious. I think all good backs need a line that can block for them in order to be a pro bowler. Unless of course they are Barry Sanders, who just so happens to be the best running back of all time.

D-buck47 · 03-25-2005, 04:20 PM

Look at what Benson had around him last year? Vince Young gives a team no threat of a passing game. Defenses stacked against Benson every single game. Campbell gave Williams and Brown a legit passing game to take a bit of pressure off them. Brown has a ton of upside and Williams is good, although I have a gut feeling he will be one of those guys who constantly battles injuries. Five years from now I think Benson will be the best RB in the class. Alex Smith and Andrew Walter the 2 best QBS in the class.IMO

saintswhodi · 03-25-2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks for that info Captain Obvious.

Dude, that was a little harsh, no?

[Edited on 25/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

baronm · 03-25-2005, 04:24 PM

Look at what Benson had around him last year? Vince Young gives a team no threat of a passing game. Defenses stacked against Benson every single game. Campbell gave Williams and Brown a legit passing game to take a bit of pressure off them. Brown has a ton of upside and Williams is good, although I have a gut feeling he will be one of those guys who constantly battles injuries. Five years from now I think Benson will be the best RB in the class. Alex Smith and Andrew Walter the 2 best QBS in the class.IMO

trust me..cambell was carried by H2 and Cadillac. THose guys are awesome and they come from one of the best running back schools of all time...though..with all the attention diverted away from him benson could actually have one of the better seasons next year in comparison....though I agree with whodi..longterm-brown, cadillac then benson

baronm · 03-25-2005, 04:27 PM

but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him

Thanks for that info Captain Obvious. I think all good backs need a line that can block for them in order to be a pro bowler. Unless of course they are Barry Sanders, who just so happens to be the best running back of all time.

bo had an awfull line in both college and the pros...duece has had an awful line as well. Brown doesn\'t need a line blocking downfeild as much as cadillac does...mainly becuase cadillac got more long yardage than brown did..but some of that was just in how they were used.

03-25-2005, 03:38 PM	#11
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Who would you take? Brown\'s 40 was in the 4.4s, and he has better hands. The stud of this draft is Brown.

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baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Who would you take? Ronnie Brown, definitely. Benson will be like Eddie George. Burning out early, you will see a definite drop in his production later in his career due to overuse early, high school and college. Earl Campbell syndrome. I would bet on it. Brown is faster, stronger, catches better, and has had less wear and tear over his career due to the presence of Cadillac, whom I think is simply overrated. I\'ve seen cadillac in high school, college ad getting ready for the pros...he will be a pro bowl contender....but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him ala barry sanders.
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03-25-2005, 04:00 PM	#13
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Who would you take? What? A line that will block for him like Barry who? Barry Word? Barry Foster? Certainly not Barry Sanders. That dude never had a good line. Maybe a line that will block for him like Emmitt Smith. I can agree with that.

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baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Who would you take? true..sanders didn\'t have a great line...I guess what I was thinking was he is more of a finnesse back than a power back. not a sanders caliber..but few are. benson\'s attitude worries me..ronnie brown and cadillac also have not been used near as much....cadilac would be used in longer yarder situations and brown in short yards...brown is a better blocker and reciever, but cadillac just is so hard to get a handle on and has great game speed.
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03-25-2005, 04:17 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Who would you take? I agree totally on Cadillac. He reminds me of a Brian Westbrook. Good at everything but not really great at anything. Brown I think can be a workhorse, due to the fact he didn\'t take too much of a pounding in college, he is 230, fast, and just hard to bring down cause of his power. Cadillac has better moves though and is more elusive. Of the 3, Benson would be last on my list. I have rarely seen him catch the ball out of the backfield, he has okay speed, and just how much he has been used up to this point worries me. I mean 5-6 good years is nothing to sneeze at, but what if he conks out sooner? Or is he is like Eddie George and barely ever has a season averaging over 4 yards a carry? That would worry me.

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bignic26 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 122	Who would you take? but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him Thanks for that info Captain Obvious. I think all good backs need a line that can block for them in order to be a pro bowler. Unless of course they are Barry Sanders, who just so happens to be the best running back of all time.
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D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Who would you take? Look at what Benson had around him last year? Vince Young gives a team no threat of a passing game. Defenses stacked against Benson every single game. Campbell gave Williams and Brown a legit passing game to take a bit of pressure off them. Brown has a ton of upside and Williams is good, although I have a gut feeling he will be one of those guys who constantly battles injuries. Five years from now I think Benson will be the best RB in the class. Alex Smith and Andrew Walter the 2 best QBS in the class.IMO
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03-25-2005, 04:20 PM	#18
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Who would you take? Thanks for that info Captain Obvious. Dude, that was a little harsh, no? [Edited on 25/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

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baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Who would you take? Look at what Benson had around him last year? Vince Young gives a team no threat of a passing game. Defenses stacked against Benson every single game. Campbell gave Williams and Brown a legit passing game to take a bit of pressure off them. Brown has a ton of upside and Williams is good, although I have a gut feeling he will be one of those guys who constantly battles injuries. Five years from now I think Benson will be the best RB in the class. Alex Smith and Andrew Walter the 2 best QBS in the class.IMO trust me..cambell was carried by H2 and Cadillac. THose guys are awesome and they come from one of the best running back schools of all time...though..with all the attention diverted away from him benson could actually have one of the better seasons next year in comparison....though I agree with whodi..longterm-brown, cadillac then benson
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03-25-2005, 04:27 PM	#20
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Who would you take? but the thing is he will need a line that can block for him Thanks for that info Captain Obvious. I think all good backs need a line that can block for them in order to be a pro bowler. Unless of course they are Barry Sanders, who just so happens to be the best running back of all time. bo had an awfull line in both college and the pros...duece has had an awful line as well. Brown doesn\'t need a line blocking downfeild as much as cadillac does...mainly becuase cadillac got more long yardage than brown did..but some of that was just in how they were used.
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