Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season

spkb25 · 05-02-2017, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Vegas odds have nothing to do with what the odds makers think will happen. It has everything to do with how they view the public's perception. If they feel the majority of the betting public thinks the Saints while win less than 8.5 games they are are actually banking on the Saints winning MORE than 8.5 games.

I'll take that over bet in a minute.

good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2017, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost

Nobody anticipated the way the defense would be decimated by injuries.

spkb25 · 05-02-2017, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Nobody anticipated the way the defense would be decimated by injuries.

so should we expect it this year since most of these guys have been hurt their first 2 seasons in the nfl?

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2017, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

so should we expect it this year since most of these guys have been hurt their first 2 seasons in the nfl?

Expect that Rankins will break another leg? Expect that P.J. will get sandwiched the exact same way? Expect that Delvin Breaux will break another leg? Expect that Vacarro will serve another suspension?

No. I don't expect any of that.

spkb25 · 05-02-2017, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Expect that Rankins will break another leg? Expect that P.J. will get sandwiched the exact same way? Expect that Delvin Breaux will break another leg? Expect that Vacarro will serve another suspension?

No. I don't expect any of that.

PJ williams has played 1.5 games in 2 years, just saying. So yeah I hope it doesn't happen, but I'd wager he will get hurt. I hope he doesn't, but yeah it seems likely.

Kika was hurt twice in college, similar injury

SWann missed final 6 or 7 games his rook season, so yeah possible

KV did not accept his suspension until we were basically Eliminated. He doesn't count at all.

Wouldn't expect it with sheldon either
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Breaux had two different injuries, did he not?

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

PJ williams has played 1.5 games in 2 years, just saying. So yeah I hope it doesn't happen, but I'd wager he will get hurt. I hope he doesn't, but yeah it seems likely.

Kika was hurt twice in college, similar injury

SWann missed final 6 or 7 games his rook season, so yeah possible

KV did not accept his suspension until we were basically Eliminated. He doesn't count at all.

Wouldn't expect it with sheldon either
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Breaux had two different injuries, did he not?

The Williams injuries were totally unrelated. Pure happenstance. I don't believe in bad luck.

Kikaha is the only one that might concern me, but we now have plenty of reinforcements their now.

Breaux broke his leg in week one and didn't return until week 8 and was out after the season was over in week 15. He was placed on IR just to free a roster spot for the final two weeks.

spkb25 · 05-02-2017, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Williams injuries were totally unrelated. Pure happenstance. I don't believe in bad luck.

Kikaha is the only one that might concern me, but we now have plenty of reinforcements their now.

Breaux broke his leg in week one and didn't return until week 8 and was out after the season was over in week 15. He was placed on IR just to free a roster spot for the final two weeks.

I could have sworn the second injury to Breaux was unrelated to the first, anyone else?

I hear you about PJ, and hope you're right cause kid can play, but still is concerning.

cars4dylan · 05-03-2017, 08:35 AM

So, here's my opinion on this season and the aforementioned "tough schedule":

@ Vikings – W -- Does that QB scare you? The Def gets a test in rookie RB
Patriots – L/W -- Home opener, good CB barometer, who steps up as 2/3 WR
@ Panthers – L -- Panthers back on track? Metarie hot wx camp pays off??
Dolphins – W -- Turning heads at this point if we're 2-1 or 3-0, Fish= Meh!!
Lions – W -- Fluke season as their Div champs come crashing back to earth
@ Packers – L/W -- objectively: 3-3, optimist: 4-2, My heart: 5-1
Bears – W -- Come on, no weapons, possible rookie QB throwing INTs...
Bucs – W -- Do they live up to paper or does Winston start a bad slide early?
@ Bills – W -- Cold wx? Def creating t/o's? If we lose, choke ourselves!
Redskins – W -- Who scares us on that offense? Home Sweet Dome again!!
@ Rams – W -- Full swing a$$ kicking mode at this point. League talking...
Panthers – W -- Assert ourselves in close game to stay on hot streak
@ Falcons – L -- Close Div record going into game? tuff loss after CAR game
Jets – W -- "J-E-T-E....lose...lose...lose!
Falcons – W -- Who schedules this crap! Bounce back win to climb atop Div
@ Bucs - W -- They are who we thought they were!!!

Pessimistic: 10-6 Optimistically: 12-4 Me: 13-3 (We win either Pats or Packers game)

In the middle of our season, where are the tough games? If we stay healthy (yes, big "if" historically speaking) it could be an upside year.
Do Falcons stay atop the DIV, if so then we get a high Wild Card seat.

Utah_Saint · 05-02-2017, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost

Last year the over/under was 7. Looks like Vegas believes the Saints have improved.

AsylumGuido · 05-02-2017, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Last year the over/under was 7. Looks like Vegas believes the Saints have improved.

Guess that means I would have pushed.

05-02-2017, 03:20 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Vegas odds have nothing to do with what the odds makers think will happen. It has everything to do with how they view the public's perception. If they feel the majority of the betting public thinks the Saints while win less than 8.5 games they are are actually banking on the Saints winning MORE than 8.5 games. I'll take that over bet in a minute. good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost

05-02-2017, 04:17 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by spkb25 good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost Nobody anticipated the way the defense would be decimated by injuries. Danno, hagan714 and saintsfan1976 like this.

05-02-2017, 05:21 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Nobody anticipated the way the defense would be decimated by injuries. so should we expect it this year since most of these guys have been hurt their first 2 seasons in the nfl?

05-02-2017, 05:27 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by spkb25 so should we expect it this year since most of these guys have been hurt their first 2 seasons in the nfl? Expect that Rankins will break another leg? Expect that P.J. will get sandwiched the exact same way? Expect that Delvin Breaux will break another leg? Expect that Vacarro will serve another suspension? No. I don't expect any of that. Danno likes this.

05-02-2017, 05:41 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Expect that Rankins will break another leg? Expect that P.J. will get sandwiched the exact same way? Expect that Delvin Breaux will break another leg? Expect that Vacarro will serve another suspension? No. I don't expect any of that. PJ williams has played 1.5 games in 2 years, just saying. So yeah I hope it doesn't happen, but I'd wager he will get hurt. I hope he doesn't, but yeah it seems likely. Kika was hurt twice in college, similar injury SWann missed final 6 or 7 games his rook season, so yeah possible KV did not accept his suspension until we were basically Eliminated. He doesn't count at all. Wouldn't expect it with sheldon either \ Breaux had two different injuries, did he not?

05-02-2017, 05:52 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by spkb25 PJ williams has played 1.5 games in 2 years, just saying. So yeah I hope it doesn't happen, but I'd wager he will get hurt. I hope he doesn't, but yeah it seems likely. Kika was hurt twice in college, similar injury SWann missed final 6 or 7 games his rook season, so yeah possible KV did not accept his suspension until we were basically Eliminated. He doesn't count at all. Wouldn't expect it with sheldon either \ Breaux had two different injuries, did he not? The Williams injuries were totally unrelated. Pure happenstance. I don't believe in bad luck. Kikaha is the only one that might concern me, but we now have plenty of reinforcements their now. Breaux broke his leg in week one and didn't return until week 8 and was out after the season was over in week 15. He was placed on IR just to free a roster spot for the final two weeks. Danno likes this.

05-02-2017, 05:56 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Williams injuries were totally unrelated. Pure happenstance. I don't believe in bad luck. Kikaha is the only one that might concern me, but we now have plenty of reinforcements their now. Breaux broke his leg in week one and didn't return until week 8 and was out after the season was over in week 15. He was placed on IR just to free a roster spot for the final two weeks. I could have sworn the second injury to Breaux was unrelated to the first, anyone else? I hear you about PJ, and hope you're right cause kid can play, but still is concerning.

05-03-2017, 08:35 AM	#8
cars4dylan 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 106	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season So, here's my opinion on this season and the aforementioned "tough schedule": @ Vikings – W -- Does that QB scare you? The Def gets a test in rookie RB Patriots – L/W -- Home opener, good CB barometer, who steps up as 2/3 WR @ Panthers – L -- Panthers back on track? Metarie hot wx camp pays off?? Dolphins – W -- Turning heads at this point if we're 2-1 or 3-0, Fish= Meh!! Lions – W -- Fluke season as their Div champs come crashing back to earth @ Packers – L/W -- objectively: 3-3, optimist: 4-2, My heart: 5-1 Bears – W -- Come on, no weapons, possible rookie QB throwing INTs... Bucs – W -- Do they live up to paper or does Winston start a bad slide early? @ Bills – W -- Cold wx? Def creating t/o's? If we lose, choke ourselves! Redskins – W -- Who scares us on that offense? Home Sweet Dome again!! @ Rams – W -- Full swing a$$ kicking mode at this point. League talking... Panthers – W -- Assert ourselves in close game to stay on hot streak @ Falcons – L -- Close Div record going into game? tuff loss after CAR game Jets – W -- "J-E-T-E....lose...lose...lose! Falcons – W -- Who schedules this crap! Bounce back win to climb atop Div @ Bucs - W -- They are who we thought they were!!! Pessimistic: 10-6 Optimistically: 12-4 Me: 13-3 (We win either Pats or Packers game) In the middle of our season, where are the tough games? If we stay healthy (yes, big "if" historically speaking) it could be an upside year. Do Falcons stay atop the DIV, if so then we get a high Wild Card seat.
cars4dylan 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 106

05-02-2017, 04:50 PM	#9
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by spkb25 good thing you didnt take it last year, you would have lost Last year the over/under was 7. Looks like Vegas believes the Saints have improved.

05-02-2017, 05:06 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Vegas betting Saints have a disappointing season Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Last year the over/under was 7. Looks like Vegas believes the Saints have improved. Guess that means I would have pushed.

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