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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Lol, Let it go Hagan. OJ is a Buc now . let it go? say whay? i will try but i keep track of these things 2006 2 D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia 34 D'Qwell Jackson ...

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Old 05-04-2017, 08:41 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
Lol,

Let it go Hagan. OJ is a Buc now .
let it go? say whay? i will try but i keep track of these things

2006
2 D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
34 D'Qwell Jackson LB Maryland
99 Jahri Evans OT Bloomsburg
135 Dawan Landry S Georgia Tech
171 Johnny Jolly DT Texas A&M
210 Zach Strief OT Northwestern

2007
27 Ben Grubbs G Auburn
58 Ryan Kalil C USC
125 Jermon Bushrod OT Towson

2008
10 Ryan Clady OT Boise State
40 Matt Forté RB Tulane
78 Cliff Avril DE Purdue
113 Red Bryant DT Texas A&M

2009
14 Brian Cushing LB USC
Trade Shokey TE NYG
Trade Vilma
164 Chris Clemons S Clemson

2010
Patrick Robinson CB FSU
Brandon LaFell WR LSU
Dennis Pitta TE BYU
Kam Chancellor S Virginia Tech


2011
Cameron Jordan DE
John Moffitt G Wisconsin
Dion Lewis RB Pittsburgh
Pernell McPhee DE Miss St

2012
27 Nick Perry LB USC
89 Nigel Bradham LB FSU
122 Malik Jackson DE Tennessee
162 Jeremy Lane CB NW State
179 J R Sweezy OG NC State

2013
15 Alec Ogletree, WLB
75 Terron Armstead, OT
144 A.J.Klein MLB

2014
27 SS Deone Bucannon Washington St
57 WR Allen Robinson Penn St
91 RB Jerrick Mckinnon Georgia Southern
167 C Tyler Larsen Utah St.
202 OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif McGill - RG

2015
13 WR DeVante Parker Louiville
33 DT Malcom Brown OSU
44 OT Jake Fisher Oregan
75 OLB Eli Harold Virgina
78 CB P.J. Williams FSU
154 CB Charles Gaines Louisville


2016
1 - Laremy Tunsil ROT Ole Miss
2 - Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama
3 - Justin Simmons DB Boston College
4 - Matt Judon, DE, Grand Valley State
5 - DJ Reader NT Clemson

Sean Davis vs Vonn Bell

2017
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6056 251 4.51 #88 Sr
Ryan Ramczyk ROT/OG Wisconsin 6052 314 5.29 #65 rJr
Marcus Williams FS Utah 6005 202 4.56 #20 Jr
Fabian Moreau CB UCLA 6004 206 4.35 #10 rSr
Trey Hendrickson DE Florida Atlantic 6040 266 4.64 #9 Sr
(117) NE (From Saints) - Cook trade
Redskins (From Saints) - George Kittle TE Iowa 6036 250 4.53 #46 rSr
Brandon Wilson, RB/KR/CB, Houston 5101 198 4.40 #26 rSr
Kai Nacua, FS/SS, BYU 6005 209 4.50 #12 Sr

not a chance
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Old 05-04-2017, 09:26 AM   #32
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

Hagin,
I'll leave my grade on the draft as W - WAIT AND SEE. I thought Anthony was a outstanding pick & I was almost ready to label Peat as a bust. After year 2, the opposite holds true .
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Old 05-04-2017, 02:20 PM   #33
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

I always give our draft picks 4 year prove it contract time.

Rob Ryan, FA and trad players do not get a break
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Old 05-04-2017, 03:36 PM   #34
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
I always give our draft picks 4 year prove it contract time.

Rob Ryan, FA and trad players do not get a break
True Dat! We have been insufficient evaluating talent. Ireland has helped on the defensive side of the ball but we may need a true football GM, which Loomis is not. He's a yes man and bean counter.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:22 PM   #35
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

He will probably play 8 games a season average and have a good year in year 4 but we won't pick up the option. He goes to another team and starts all 16 games year in and year out.

"Why all the negativity?"
Have you seen anything about the health of our backfield in the past 5 years to be positive about?

I hope the new coaches came with a new strength and conditioning staff.
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Old 05-04-2017, 09:56 PM   #36
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
let it go? say whay? i will try but i keep track of these things

2006
2 D'Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia
34 D'Qwell Jackson LB Maryland
99 Jahri Evans OT Bloomsburg
135 Dawan Landry S Georgia Tech
171 Johnny Jolly DT Texas A&M
210 Zach Strief OT Northwestern

2007
27 Ben Grubbs G Auburn
58 Ryan Kalil C USC
125 Jermon Bushrod OT Towson

2008
10 Ryan Clady OT Boise State
40 Matt Forté RB Tulane
78 Cliff Avril DE Purdue
113 Red Bryant DT Texas A&M

2009
14 Brian Cushing LB USC
Trade Shokey TE NYG
Trade Vilma
164 Chris Clemons S Clemson

2010
Patrick Robinson CB FSU
Brandon LaFell WR LSU
Dennis Pitta TE BYU
Kam Chancellor S Virginia Tech


2011
Cameron Jordan DE
John Moffitt G Wisconsin
Dion Lewis RB Pittsburgh
Pernell McPhee DE Miss St

2012
27 Nick Perry LB USC
89 Nigel Bradham LB FSU
122 Malik Jackson DE Tennessee
162 Jeremy Lane CB NW State
179 J R Sweezy OG NC State

2013
15 Alec Ogletree, WLB
75 Terron Armstead, OT
144 A.J.Klein MLB

2014
27 SS Deone Bucannon Washington St
57 WR Allen Robinson Penn St
91 RB Jerrick Mckinnon Georgia Southern
167 C Tyler Larsen Utah St.
202 OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif McGill - RG

2015
13 WR DeVante Parker Louiville
33 DT Malcom Brown OSU
44 OT Jake Fisher Oregan
75 OLB Eli Harold Virgina
78 CB P.J. Williams FSU
154 CB Charles Gaines Louisville


2016
1 - Laremy Tunsil ROT Ole Miss
2 - Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama
3 - Justin Simmons DB Boston College
4 - Matt Judon, DE, Grand Valley State
5 - DJ Reader NT Clemson

Sean Davis vs Vonn Bell

2017
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6056 251 4.51 #88 Sr
Ryan Ramczyk ROT/OG Wisconsin 6052 314 5.29 #65 rJr
Marcus Williams FS Utah 6005 202 4.56 #20 Jr
Fabian Moreau CB UCLA 6004 206 4.35 #10 rSr
Trey Hendrickson DE Florida Atlantic 6040 266 4.64 #9 Sr
(117) NE (From Saints) - Cook trade
Redskins (From Saints) - George Kittle TE Iowa 6036 250 4.53 #46 rSr
Brandon Wilson, RB/KR/CB, Houston 5101 198 4.40 #26 rSr
Kai Nacua, FS/SS, BYU 6005 209 4.50 #12 Sr

not a chance
Look at the offensive lineman we got those first couple years. Payton saw the future withBrees and built around him. We wound up having the best line in the league a few years there.
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Old 05-05-2017, 06:32 AM   #37
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II View Post
True Dat! We have been insufficient evaluating talent. Ireland has helped on the defensive side of the ball but we may need a true football GM, which Loomis is not. He's a yes man and bean counter.
Look at all the teams in the NFL who have virtual dictatorships where the HCs have all the stroke, it just doesn't work...

You gotta have checks and balances and the the only checks and balances Loomis knows are as Payton's trained monkey...

Mora was the toast of the NFL with the Saints franchise turnaround, then when he didn't have Mr. Finks to reign him in, he ran what he built into the ground...
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:27 AM   #38
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I see a rotation of situational pass rushers We need about 12 more sacks.If three guys get four sacks I'm ok with that add in a few CB and S blitzes and we are top fifteen D !
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I see a rotation of situational pass rushers We need about 12 more sacks.If three guys get four sacks I'm ok with that add in a few CB and S blitzes and we are top fifteen D !
Don't forget the whole turnover thing.
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Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

Originally Posted by triman View Post
I see a rotation of situational pass rushers We need about 12 more sacks.If three guys get four sacks I'm ok with that add in a few CB and S blitzes and we are top fifteen D !
If the Saints were to add 12 sacks to last year's total (30, 27th NFL) they would have tied for 3rd in the league behind only Arizona (48) and Carolina (47). A marginal improvement of even six more sacks would have them in 13th position.

Think about that for a second. We are not far off from having very good defense with a little health and improved players and coaching. I feel we have just that.
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