Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves

jeanpierre · 05-30-2017, 06:28 PM

Finally, a reporter who has taken the honest time to a) critique the Saints on what they've been the past three seasons and, b) analyze the latest off-season moves, acquisitions...

However, the story is focused on player acquisitions and fails to mention coaching changes which is the big elephant in the room everyone is overlooking...

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foreverfan · 05-31-2017, 12:29 AM

You have to think the whole thing through....

Or you can end up with this.

AsylumGuido · 05-31-2017, 08:30 AM

Well, he did mention the change in special team's coaching (Banta), but you are correct, JP. The impact from the removal of Vitt and Johnson and the addition of Nolan and Nielsen may be greater than any actual player move this off-season.

ChrisXVI · 05-31-2017, 09:22 AM

We still have Dan Dalrymple and the horrendous cast of strength and conditioning coaches/medical staff. I'm hoping the new coaching doesn't end up being spent on street free agents by week 3.

saintsfan1976 · 05-31-2017, 09:29 AM

Our defense needs to own 3rd down. The previous three year average has N.O. finishing DEAD LAST in opponent 3rd down rate (54% conversion). https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

Cam Jordan says he needs help behind the line (CBs) and I believe him.

AsylumGuido · 05-31-2017, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Our defense needs to own 3rd down. The previous three year average has N.O. finishing DEAD LAST in opponent 3rd down rate (54% conversion). https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct

Cam Jordan says he needs help behind the line (CBs) and I believe him.

That was the past three years. This has been addressed BIG TIME with the additions to the secondary and also factor in Aaron Glenn's second season as the secondary coach what he can do to help what is now an extremely talented group of DB's.

AsylumGuido · 05-31-2017, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We still have Dan Dalrymple and the horrendous cast of strength and conditioning coaches/medical staff. I'm hoping the new coaching doesn't end up being spent on street free agents by week 3.

Not much a strength and conditioning coach can do to prevent most injuries these days since they have been severely limited on player contact under the new CBA. Strength and conditioning has been moved into the player's court. That has to be done in the off-season.

K Major · 05-31-2017, 01:20 PM

Speaking of strength & conditioning ... will this guy (Manti Te'O) emerge as a leader at camp & stay healthy?? Big question mark for me.

Rugby Saint II · 06-01-2017, 12:57 PM

I've been wondering just how much our conditioning program needs to be tweaked. I hope that the team isn't still doing the work out program Payton used to drop the weight while he was suspended.

New coaching for our players= more wins........hopefully.

turbo_dog · 06-01-2017, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of strength & conditioning ... will this guy (Manti Te'O) emerge as a leader at camp & stay healthy?? Big question mark for me.

For someone 6'1", he looks like a damn giant in that photo.

05-30-2017, 06:28 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Finally, a reporter who has taken the honest time to a) critique the Saints on what they've been the past three seasons and, b) analyze the latest off-season moves, acquisitions... However, the story is focused on player acquisitions and fails to mention coaching changes which is the big elephant in the room everyone is overlooking... Twitter jnormand, CharityMike and dam1953 like this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves You have to think the whole thing through.... Or you can end up with this. spkb25, SapperSaint and Beastmode like this.

05-31-2017, 08:30 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Well, he did mention the change in special team's coaching (Banta), but you are correct, JP. The impact from the removal of Vitt and Johnson and the addition of Nolan and Nielsen may be greater than any actual player move this off-season. saintsfan1976, CharityMike and K Major like this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves We still have Dan Dalrymple and the horrendous cast of strength and conditioning coaches/medical staff. I'm hoping the new coaching doesn't end up being spent on street free agents by week 3. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Our defense needs to own 3rd down. The previous three year average has N.O. finishing DEAD LAST in opponent 3rd down rate (54% conversion). https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct Cam Jordan says he needs help behind the line (CBs) and I believe him. K Major likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Our defense needs to own 3rd down. The previous three year average has N.O. finishing DEAD LAST in opponent 3rd down rate (54% conversion). https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...conversion-pct Cam Jordan says he needs help behind the line (CBs) and I believe him. That was the past three years. This has been addressed BIG TIME with the additions to the secondary and also factor in Aaron Glenn's second season as the secondary coach what he can do to help what is now an extremely talented group of DB's.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We still have Dan Dalrymple and the horrendous cast of strength and conditioning coaches/medical staff. I'm hoping the new coaching doesn't end up being spent on street free agents by week 3. Not much a strength and conditioning coach can do to prevent most injuries these days since they have been severely limited on player contact under the new CBA. Strength and conditioning has been moved into the player's court. That has to be done in the off-season.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Speaking of strength & conditioning ... will this guy (Manti Te'O) emerge as a leader at camp & stay healthy?? Big question mark for me.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves I've been wondering just how much our conditioning program needs to be tweaked. I hope that the team isn't still doing the work out program Payton used to drop the weight while he was suspended. New coaching for our players= more wins........hopefully.
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Re: Sporting News: Breaking down new-look Saints: Pressure to win met with smart offseason moves Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of strength & conditioning ... will this guy (Manti Te'O) emerge as a leader at camp & stay healthy?? Big question mark for me. For someone 6'1", he looks like a damn giant in that photo.

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