Why don't ya'll just hug it out and move on. The season can't get here fast enough.

Yea he's sure not taking it year to year just to sign one year contracts until he retires. He's also not going to come out and say "I'm taking it year to year to see what direction the team is headed before I make another big decision". He is likely not signing now to focus on this year AND make an evaluation after it's over. At his age he's taking a risk. Ink a contract now and secure his future or play out his contract knowing that if gets injured his price tag will take a huge drop or just become non existent.

Nothing about a HOF QB at his age leads me to believe he would stay with a team that produces losing seasons every year.

I do however think we will be a better team and the firing of the coaching staff tells me Payton is serious.

I think by game 4 you know the team well enough to see how the season could shake out.

The comment that said nothing I can say will change a thing is just asinine. Nobody in there right mind should take a statement like "heads to roll" and act like I thought I was going to somehow effect anything.

Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight.

Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight.

Barring numerous injuries at key positions I don't feel we will be a 7-9 team. Our record was last year so I get that but 3 games were lost due to game winning field goals being blocked and returned for touchdowns (the Denver one was a flagrant penalty and an OOB). One is rare, 3 are exceptionally rare.

Sean and Mickey have already proved that they know what it takes to make it to the playoffs, to win in the playoffs, to make it to the Superbowl, and to win it all. They have also shown they are aware of what it takes to have a strong to dominant team consistently. They have made significant changes in the off-season and added quality players at key positions. So, the only argument I can really see is that they have become complacent. It certainly does not appear to be the case.

fair arguments, but it is 3 straight seasons of 7-9, 4 of the last 5. That said I also feel we are better than last season.

You are once again acting like how you perceive things can have any affect on future outcomes. You have no impact. Nothing. Nada. What you said was true ... IF we were somehow empowered to have anything to do with how the Saints franchise is run. You don't get that. Looking back at failures as a fan is doing nothing but wallowing in negativity. There can be NO positives by the action as a fan.

You, my friend, are the one that is delusional.

Delusional

adjective
1.
having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions:
Fans believing that they have any affect on future success of their favorite franchise are delusional.
2.
Psychiatry. maintaining fixed false beliefs even when confronted with facts, usually as a result of mental illness:
He was so delusional and paranoid that he thought his constant highlighting of past failures could have any positive affect on matters totally out of his control.

Until the point in time when you become General Manager of the Saints you are spinning your wheels and pissing into the wind.

Myself, I am totally realistic. I know for a fact that there is nothing at all that I, or any other fan, can do personally to improve the fortune of my beloved Saints. Therefore, I choose to treat it as it is in reality ... entertainment. I get the most out of entertainment when looking at it in a positive manner. It makes me feel good. I can see reality.