Playoffs or bust?

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2017, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

If we do not make the playoffs this time, that's it. Time to make changes. Drew's legacy is already falling further and further with each 7-9 season. How can he keep putting up with losing season after losing season?

So, are you Tom Benson? LOL!!! You don't have a clue, Will(insert team name here)81. Go dwell on one of your other teams. Brees' legacy is beyond your limited comprehension.

You are sad.

CheramieIII · 06-19-2017, 04:56 AM

Give me 2 bust please and I will be happy! Compared to our 1st 30 years I will take 7-9 for a few more. You have to remember where you came from to know how important today is and that the future is a wonderful unknown only assisted by a little guidance from us. Wishing and hoping it will happen actually does allow everything to open up to accept the desired outcome!

spkb25 · 06-19-2017, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Compared to our 1st 30 years I will take 7-9 for a few more.

I am sorry bro but I can't get behind being subpar mediocrity. If the Pats can do what they're doing then we can too, or at least something relatively close. If we are going to go 7-9, might as well make it 1-15 and get the first pick each draft.

Let's both hope that ends this season!

The Dude · 06-19-2017, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am sorry bro but I can't get behind being subpar mediocrity. If the Pats can do what they're doing then we can too, or at least something relatively close. If we are going to go 7-9, might as well make it 1-15 and get the first pick each draft.

Let's both hope that ends this season!

Yep. The bar is set higher now since the super bowl and Benson is way more committed the last ten years than ever. We should expect winning and not just be ok with 8-8 or 9-7 seasons.
Football is football and I'll scream and cheer to the last game of an 0-16 season but as a fan base we should want Superbowls. Back then just making the playoffs was good enough because we hadn't been there. I used to consider a wild card spot as a great season. Now I know how it feels to see them win it all.

skymike · 06-19-2017, 08:20 AM

We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons.

I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on
when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment.

Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team.

I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2017, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons.

I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on
when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment.

Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team.

I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect.

The Saints were 7-9 during the 2016 season. I think we can all agree that to this point the 2017 version is quite different based upon personnel, coaching and schedule. Until September 11 the Saints are 0-0.

spkb25 · 06-19-2017, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Saints were 7-9 during the 2016 season. I think we can all agree that to this point the 2017 version is quite different based upon personnel, coaching and schedule. Until September 11 the Saints are 0-0.

That's the equivalent of saying the Pats are no longer the SB champs or the day after we won our SB that we were no longer the champs. In all actuality until Sept. 11 we are 7-9

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2017, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

That's the equivalent of saying the Pats are no longer the SB champs or the day after we won our SB that we were no longer the champs. In all actuality until Sept. 11 we are 7-9

The Patriots are the 2016-17 Super Bowl champs. You are correct. But, at this point when addressing the upcoming 2017-18 season, they are 0-0 just like the Saints, and for that matter, the Browns.

Last season's franchise had vastly different coaching, different players and a different schedule. They were what their record said they were ... 7-9. The upcoming team has yet to play a game. They are also what their record says they are ... "to be determined" and at this point 0-0.

The Dude · 06-19-2017, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Patriots are the 2016-17 Super Bowl champs. You are correct. But, at this point when addressing the upcoming 2017-18 season, they are 0-0 just like the Saints, and for that matter, the Browns.

Last season's franchise had vastly different coaching, different players and a different schedule. They were what their record said they were ... 7-9. The upcoming team has yet to play a game. They are also what their record says they are ... "to be determined" and at this point 0-0.

We are 7-9 until the first second comes off the clock upon kickoff. At that point all 32 teams are 0-0. History is made up of things that have occurred, not what could have occurred. Right now they are a 7-9 team and will be until the official start of the season. It's a burden you bear for being a loser just like the honor they carried after the super bowl.

Excuse us for tempering our enthusiasm but it's been the same set of "promises" "for the last 5 years.

spkb25 · 06-20-2017, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons.

I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on
when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment.

Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team.

I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect.

Solid post Mike, what are you expecting this year?

06-18-2017, 07:47 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 If we do not make the playoffs this time, that's it. Time to make changes. Drew's legacy is already falling further and further with each 7-9 season. How can he keep putting up with losing season after losing season? So, are you Tom Benson? LOL!!! You don't have a clue, Will(insert team name here)81. Go dwell on one of your other teams. Brees' legacy is beyond your limited comprehension. You are sad.

06-19-2017, 04:56 AM	#2
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Playoffs or bust? Give me 2 bust please and I will be happy! Compared to our 1st 30 years I will take 7-9 for a few more. You have to remember where you came from to know how important today is and that the future is a wonderful unknown only assisted by a little guidance from us. Wishing and hoping it will happen actually does allow everything to open up to accept the desired outcome!

06-19-2017, 06:41 AM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by CheramieIII Compared to our 1st 30 years I will take 7-9 for a few more. I am sorry bro but I can't get behind being subpar mediocrity. If the Pats can do what they're doing then we can too, or at least something relatively close. If we are going to go 7-9, might as well make it 1-15 and get the first pick each draft. Let's both hope that ends this season!

06-19-2017, 01:00 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 I am sorry bro but I can't get behind being subpar mediocrity. If the Pats can do what they're doing then we can too, or at least something relatively close. If we are going to go 7-9, might as well make it 1-15 and get the first pick each draft. Let's both hope that ends this season! Yep. The bar is set higher now since the super bowl and Benson is way more committed the last ten years than ever. We should expect winning and not just be ok with 8-8 or 9-7 seasons. Football is football and I'll scream and cheer to the last game of an 0-16 season but as a fan base we should want Superbowls. Back then just making the playoffs was good enough because we hadn't been there. I used to consider a wild card spot as a great season. Now I know how it feels to see them win it all.
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06-19-2017, 08:20 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Playoffs or bust? We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons. I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment. Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team. I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect. jnormand, spkb25, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

06-19-2017, 08:42 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by skymike We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons. I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment. Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team. I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect. The Saints were 7-9 during the 2016 season. I think we can all agree that to this point the 2017 version is quite different based upon personnel, coaching and schedule. Until September 11 the Saints are 0-0.

06-19-2017, 03:58 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Saints were 7-9 during the 2016 season. I think we can all agree that to this point the 2017 version is quite different based upon personnel, coaching and schedule. Until September 11 the Saints are 0-0. That's the equivalent of saying the Pats are no longer the SB champs or the day after we won our SB that we were no longer the champs. In all actuality until Sept. 11 we are 7-9 skymike and The Dude like this.

06-19-2017, 04:28 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 That's the equivalent of saying the Pats are no longer the SB champs or the day after we won our SB that we were no longer the champs. In all actuality until Sept. 11 we are 7-9 The Patriots are the 2016-17 Super Bowl champs. You are correct. But, at this point when addressing the upcoming 2017-18 season, they are 0-0 just like the Saints, and for that matter, the Browns. Last season's franchise had vastly different coaching, different players and a different schedule. They were what their record said they were ... 7-9. The upcoming team has yet to play a game. They are also what their record says they are ... "to be determined" and at this point 0-0.

06-19-2017, 05:49 PM	#9
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Patriots are the 2016-17 Super Bowl champs. You are correct. But, at this point when addressing the upcoming 2017-18 season, they are 0-0 just like the Saints, and for that matter, the Browns. Last season's franchise had vastly different coaching, different players and a different schedule. They were what their record said they were ... 7-9. The upcoming team has yet to play a game. They are also what their record says they are ... "to be determined" and at this point 0-0. We are 7-9 until the first second comes off the clock upon kickoff. At that point all 32 teams are 0-0. History is made up of things that have occurred, not what could have occurred. Right now they are a 7-9 team and will be until the official start of the season. It's a burden you bear for being a loser just like the honor they carried after the super bowl. Excuse us for tempering our enthusiasm but it's been the same set of "promises" "for the last 5 years. spkb25 likes this.
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06-20-2017, 06:27 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by skymike We've had 3 consecutive disappointing seasons. I dont see anything wrong with a guy on a fan board starting a discussion on when are changes warranted, and what the standard should be, should this become a 4th consecutive disappointment. Im not switching allegiance, and in fact, I support the team in person, but this is a legit question. I dont even think The Dude is predicting doom, and I certainly dont think he WANTS it. But if Bill Parcells is right, you are what your record is, and until Sept 11, we are a 7-9 team. I'm as excited as anyone about 2017, and I'm rooting for us to go the Super Bowl, as I have every year since 1982. I hope optimism and reality intersect. Solid post Mike, what are you expecting this year? skymike likes this.

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