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AsylumGuido 06-22-2017 07:22 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 753260)
And yet all your posts are just ways of intimidating and bullying people when they don't share your views.

Who cares if we say what's wrong with the team, that's sports and this is a discussion forum. I'm looking forward to the season as much as anyone, but talking about previous failures is part of sports and it's not always sunshine and rainbows.

If you get so wound up about it, then let the posters that are mature enough speak between ourselves and don't comment if you can't do so without causing an argument.

I began pointing out when y'all post negative crap about the Saints. If it seems that I am bullying those few of you that are always so critical it is because 90% of your posts are negative regarding the Saints. At least spk opening admits he is a pessimist and that is just his nature. But most of the members here get tired of reading the same negative, critical, and sometimes hateful posts over and over again.

I have no issue with criticism. But it gets tiresome when it is all that comes out of a person's mouth, or off the tip's of their fingers.

Guess what? We are all aware that the Saints have gone 7-9 the past three years and 4 of the last 5. That doesn't have to part of a post multiple times each day. We know that the Byrd, Browner and Gallete deals were bad in hindsight. No need to constantly use that tired point in lambasting the front office constantly.

Sorry, I choose to always be enthusiastic about my Saints. If you want to call that sunshine and rainbows, fine! Nothing wrong with sunshine and rainbows. I for one know that there is nothing I can do as a fan to bring success to the Saints. I simply strive to make my loyalty as enjoyable as possible. That, my friend is made more difficult constantly having to wade through negative posts.

AsylumGuido 06-22-2017 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 753263)
We obviously don't know you, but you take great delight into trying to intimidate other members because they think differently to you.

A fair weather fan is someone that only shows up when the team is winning, which can't be said for anyone of us as we would not be here right now.

As I said, if you don't like what we are discussing then move along and we will continue to discuss between ourselves, we don't need your input.

When didn't I "show up" as you put it? If you looked down at the members visiting the forum listing you would see that I have been here every day (except for a brief period when I was recovering from surgery) for years. The fact that I told myself I wasn't going to respond to the negative garbage a few of you were inundating the forum with for a couple of weeks a couple of years ago doesn't mean I wasn't here.

What is your problem?

dizzle88 06-22-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753265)
When didn't I "show up" as you put it? If you looked down at the members visiting the forum listing you would see that I have been here every day (except for a brief period when I was recovering from surgery) for years. The fact that I told myself I wasn't going to respond to the negative garbage a few of you were inundating the forum with for a couple of weeks a couple of years ago doesn't mean I wasn't here.

What is your problem?

Firstly, I never said you don't "show up," I gave my description of a fair weather fan and said that doesn't apply to us. Please re-read my post.

Secondly, I don't have a problem, I just agree with Spkb and The Dude, I made that clear that I have no problem reflecting on past failures and then you quoted all 3 of us into your response and started on your tirade.

I've got better things to do than go round in circles with you so I'm done arguing, just wanted to state my opinion.

AsylumGuido 06-22-2017 07:56 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 753266)
Firstly, I never said you don't "show up," I gave my description of a fair weather fan and said that doesn't apply to us. Please re-read my post.

Secondly, I don't have a problem, I just agree with Spkb and The Dude, I made that clear that I have no problem reflecting on past failures and then you quoted all 3 of us into your response and started on your tirade.

I've got better things to do than go round in circles with you so I'm done arguing, just wanted to state my opinion.

First, I was addressing Dude's claim that I "didn't show up" and that I was a fair weather fan. I replied to your post with your definition of fair weather fan. I am aware that you never claimed that I didn't show up, whatever that means. Sorry.

Second, I am aware that you agree with spk and Dude. Anytime they they bring up failures of the past we always see that you liked the post. They get a lot of likes from you. ;)

spkb25 06-22-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 753263)
We obviously don't know you, but you take great delight into trying to intimidate other members because they think differently to you.

A fair weather fan is someone that only shows up when the team is winning, which can't be said for anyone of us as we would not be here right now.

As I said, if you don't like what we are discussing then move along and we will continue to discuss between ourselves, we don't need your input.

Good post. Have your views ad share them. if you want to counter someone's belief then have at it. Personally attacking, constantly, about someone's view is ridic. Just move along and recognize that is their view and you have your own. Going after them personally though over and over, come on now.

spkb25 06-22-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 753256)
Sice we are posting such "negative venom" right now why aren't you gone? It's crap, you left because you are a fair weather fan and can't handle reality.

Ya know and that is just it. Since when did being honest about the team equate to negativity? If the team has been 7-9 4 of the last 5 years that is a fact. It isn't negative or positive, it just is.

I have seen Dizzle and you point out areas of concern and areas of excitement. That's being honest. The loss of Unger is concerning. He is a really good center. The loss of Armistead is concerning he is a very good left tackle. Couple that with the fact that he just signed a huge contract and hasn't been healthy since is even more worrisome. The situation with Fairley is a concern because he was really good for us last year.

Positive areas are that Unger's fill in has been doing well. Kamara sounds like he could be a real stud. This Undrafted Rookie Maulet. Breaux sounds finally healthy and playing well. Lattimore sounds like the real deal. PJ if he can stay healthy is good. We could have a rally good backend.

Pros and cons. That's what it is as a fan. Not everything is good and not everything is bad.

AsylumGuido 06-22-2017 08:46 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753275)
Ya know and that is just it. Since when did being honest about the team equate to negativity? If the team has been 7-9 4 of the last 5 years that is a fact. It isn't negative or positive, it just is.

I have seen Dizzle and you point out areas of concern and areas of excitement. That's being honest. The loss of Unger is concerning. He is a really good center. The loss of Armistead is concerning he is a very good left tackle. Couple that with the fact that he just signed a huge contract and hasn't been healthy since is even more worrisome. The situation with Fairley is a concern because he was really good for us last year.

Positive areas are that Unger's fill in has been doing well. Kamara sounds like he could be a real stud. This Undrafted Rookie Maulet. Breaux sounds finally healthy and playing well. Lattimore sounds like the real deal. PJ if he can stay healthy is good. We could have a rally good backend.

Pros and cons. That's what it is as a fan. Not everything is good and not everything is bad.

I agree with that last part. I am glad you are taking it to heart. Oh, and thanks for the reminder about those 7-9 years. I had almost forgotten about them.
:D

And, yes, it would be a shame if Fairley could not return and the Saints had to eat some of his guarantees. What's done is done. Time to move on.

CharityMike 06-22-2017 11:08 AM

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IMO you ALL have a screw loose. Ya'll can't just let this go can you? Move on FFS!

Well done Dude..they finally were letting it go and you had to start it up again. I swear..the season can not get started fast enough.

|Mitch| 06-22-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753110)
Not surprising really, you were one of the people to disappear during the losing last season.

You're one hell of grade A person! :rolleyes: The season hasn't even started yet and you're already "combative"; correct word I guess...

I can only imagine what you were like last season :rolleyes:

I did watch my Saints in peace last season though, putting my fan-hood in question because I didn't feel like coming on here as much and dealing with all the negativity is erroneous...

But seems like negativity and attacking posters is right up your alley :rolleyes:

jeanpierre 06-22-2017 01:53 PM

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It's gonna be one helluva a season...

spkb25 06-22-2017 02:41 PM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 753286)
IMO you ALL have a screw loose. Ya'll can't just let this go can you? Move on FFS!

Well done Dude..they finally were letting it go and you had to start it up again. I swear..the season can not get started fast enough.

Dude had nothing to do with this. I wasn't even posting to the other poster and strictly speaking to and replying to Diz and Dude and the other person still replied to me. Thanks for sharing though.

What is your expectation for the season, even though it is a little early?

spkb25 06-22-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 753289)
You're one hell of grade A person! :rolleyes: The season hasn't even started yet and you're already "combative"; correct word I guess...

I can only imagine what you were like last season :rolleyes:

I did watch my Saints in peace last season though, putting my fan-hood in question because I didn't feel like coming on here as much and dealing with all the negativity is erroneous...

But seems like negativity and attacking posters is right up your alley :rolleyes:

When the going gets tough Mitch gets on a going

CharityMike 06-22-2017 05:20 PM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753300)
Dude had nothing to do with this. I wasn't even posting to the other poster and strictly speaking to and replying to Diz and Dude and the other person still replied to me. Thanks for sharing though.

What is your expectation for the season, even though it is a little early?

My bad then. It felt like the feud was calming down and then Dude went and quoted all the posts and it felt like he was stirring the pot. If not the case, then my apologies. I swear..you and Guido go after each other in almost every thread like ex lovers or something.

As far as the season..I dunno. I'm feeling good about the coaching changes and really think it is being over looked by everyone on the outside. All good, we do better as under dogs anyway. I think we are going to see some vast improvement from the D side barring that the injury bug leaves us alone. Unless we have a major implosion, I'm feeling a winning season. Enough to get to the playoffs? I dunno. I'm just ready to get it started so we can quit all the fighting over semantics. The past is the past. We sucked and were not good enough. But changes have been made so lets keep a hopeful outlook and support our boys in the black and gold. :bng:

AsylumGuido 06-22-2017 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 753313)
My bad then. It felt like the feud was calming down and then Dude went and quoted all the posts and it felt like he was stirring the pot. If not the case, then my apologies. I swear..you and Guido go after each other in almost every thread like ex lovers or something.

As far as the season..I dunno. I'm feeling good about the coaching changes and really think it is being over looked by everyone on the outside. All good, we do better as under dogs anyway. I think we are going to see some vast improvement from the D side barring that the injury bug leaves us alone. Unless we have a major implosion, I'm feeling a winning season. Enough to get to the playoffs? I dunno. I'm just ready to get it started so we can quit all the fighting over semantics. The past is the past. We sucked and were not good enough. But changes have been made so lets keep a hopeful outlook and support our boys in the black and gold. :bng:

That was me that stirred the pot, Mike. I have always been known as quite a good chef. ;)

But I agree completely, the past is the past. It is time to move on and look forward to a much more promising future.

spkb25 06-22-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 753313)
My bad then. It felt like the feud was calming down and then Dude went and quoted all the posts and it felt like he was stirring the pot. If not the case, then my apologies. I swear..you and Guido go after each other in almost every thread like ex lovers or something.

As far as the season..I dunno. I'm feeling good about the coaching changes and really think it is being over looked by everyone on the outside. All good, we do better as under dogs anyway. I think we are going to see some vast improvement from the D side barring that the injury bug leaves us alone. Unless we have a major implosion, I'm feeling a winning season. Enough to get to the playoffs? I dunno. I'm just ready to get it started so we can quit all the fighting over semantics. The past is the past. We sucked and were not good enough. But changes have been made so lets keep a hopeful outlook and support our boys in the black and gold. :bng:

Yeah definitely putting some good pieces in place to build a good team, think we are close. Be nice to get off to a start and open with a win.

The Dude 06-22-2017 06:53 PM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753275)
Ya know and that is just it. Since when did being honest about the team equate to negativity? If the team has been 7-9 4 of the last 5 years that is a fact. It isn't negative or positive, it just is.

I have seen Dizzle and you point out areas of concern and areas of excitement. That's being honest. The loss of Unger is concerning. He is a really good center. The loss of Armistead is concerning he is a very good left tackle. Couple that with the fact that he just signed a huge contract and hasn't been healthy since is even more worrisome. The situation with Fairley is a concern because he was really good for us last year.

Positive areas are that Unger's fill in has been doing well. Kamara sounds like he could be a real stud. This Undrafted Rookie Maulet. Breaux sounds finally healthy and playing well. Lattimore sounds like the real deal. PJ if he can stay healthy is good. We could have a rally good backend.

Pros and cons. That's what it is as a fan. Not everything is good and not everything is bad.

Ted Ginn looking like a good fit too and Peat seems to finally be getting it. If we can start strong with the younger guys on the offensive line by the time Armstead and Unger get back we could be in a really great spot.
Again we have to win one of the first two. I think that is key.

spkb25 06-22-2017 07:10 PM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 753328)
Again we have to win one of the first two. I think that is key.

I do too

skymike 06-23-2017 12:22 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753120)
Solid post Mike, what are you expecting this year?

Spike-Buh, Im expecting a Super Bowl. Yes, I really am.

Somehow Payton always manages to Cajun-Rig together an offensive line, and if he can do it this year again, we have the pieces to blow up the world on Offense.

As crazy as I think Guido is here... (In real life, he's probably normal, just like Foreverfan, who is not a rabid, psycho in a basement, with a fridge full of severed heads, wearing a batman suit, as his online persona suggests, but a completely normal guy like you would know from school, like an insurance selling kind of guy, who drives a normal car, with a smoking hot wife.) Anyway, as crazy as Guido comes off here, he mades some hellacious points about the improvement on Defense, on all three levels, and especially the secondary. Hes not the only source I've heard say the leadership, the assistants on staff, are greatly improved, and have potential to create magic.

We're one or two crazy guys away from great special teams... pending Forbath's consistency, and the best punter since Ray Guy, Thomas Morestead.

We are the greatest fans in Sports, and have the power to bring it any week, and New Orleans, the city after my heart, deserves another Champion.

Kool Aid? Maybe. I thought Richard Todd would take us all the way in 1984. But win or lose, I will be raising 12 kinds of hell in the Terrace this year. I just cant wait.

AsylumGuido 06-23-2017 06:43 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 753328)
Ted Ginn looking like a good fit too and Peat seems to finally be getting it. If we can start strong with the younger guys on the offensive line by the time Armstead and Unger get back we could be in a really great spot.
Again we have to win one of the first two. I think that is key.

I am expecting Unger back by the beginning of the season. It should only be Armstead out and he was either out or playing hurt all last season and the line performed great.

jnormand 06-23-2017 08:22 AM

Re: Playoffs or bust?
 
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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 753355)
Spike-Buh, Im expecting a Super Bowl. Yes, I really am.

Somehow Payton always manages to Cajun-Rig together an offensive line, and if he can do it this year again, we have the pieces to blow up the world on Offense.

As crazy as I think Guido is here... (In real life, he's probably normal, just like Foreverfan, who is not a rabid, psycho in a basement, with a fridge full of severed heads, wearing a batman suit, as his online persona suggests, but a completely normal guy like you would know from school, like an insurance selling kind of guy, who drives a normal car, with a smoking hot wife.) Anyway, as crazy as Guido comes off here, he mades some hellacious points about the improvement on Defense, on all three levels, and especially the secondary. Hes not the only source I've heard say the leadership, the assistants on staff, are greatly improved, and have potential to create magic.

We're one or two crazy guys away from great special teams... pending Forbath's consistency, and the best punter since Ray Guy, Thomas Morestead.

We are the greatest fans in Sports, and have the power to bring it any week, and New Orleans, the city after my heart, deserves another Champion.

Kool Aid? Maybe. I thought Richard Todd would take us all the way in 1984. But win or lose, I will be raising 12 kinds of hell in the Terrace this year. I just cant wait.

Mikey you meant Lutz not Forbath right?

I actually think that kid is gonna be good. After the new ST coach was hired, I don't think the kid missed.

AsylumGuido 06-23-2017 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 753364)
Mikey you meant Lutz not Forbath right?

I actually think that kid is gonna be good. After the new ST coach was hired, I don't think the kid missed.

Yes. He got that elevation up. Lutz was line driving everything early. That led to blocked kicks that cost us games. We could have so easily been 10-6 and in the playoffs last season.

foreverfan 06-23-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753095)
I am grown up. That's why I don't dwell on negatives all the time. That in itself is childish.

Negatives? Childish? Grown up?
Well at least my stuff works. :o

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Seer1 06-23-2017 02:27 PM

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Bust!


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