Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder)

darksoul35 · 06-19-2017, 08:13 AM

I say go with the rook at LT and take our lumps early. Let him get some experience and when Armstead does come back then we have a monster o line. This does hurt but it can turn in to something positive. Im more concerned about the DT issue.

K Major · 06-19-2017, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Armstead is good, when healthy, but when was he last healthy?

Armstead's body is either breaking down or he isn't training properly.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2017, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Armstead's body is either breaking down or he isn't training properly.

This labrum injury really didn't have anything to do with either. It was a freak accident. From what I understand he slipped on a mat and landed directly on a shoulder. That would cause the ball to grind into the joint and tear the labrum. If he would have been in pads they would have cushioned the impact and would would have most likely been fine. The world's healthiest athlete would have fared any better in that scenario. It was just bum luck with a degree of blame belonging, once again, to the CBA which prohibited practicing in pads until later.

K Major · 06-19-2017, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This labrum injury really didn't have anything to do with either. It was a freak accident. From what I understand he slipped on a mat and landed directly on a shoulder. That would cause the ball to grind into the joint and tear the labrum. If he would have been in pads they would have cushioned the impact and would would have most likely been fine. The world's healthiest athlete would have fared any better in that scenario. It was just bum luck with a degree of blame belonging, once again, to the CBA which prohibited practicing in pads until later.

We all get the "freak" injuries however this is becoming a theme for Armstead. The big fella simply can't stay healthy. As JP stated earlier, when is he ever 100%?

ChrisXVI · 06-19-2017, 10:23 AM

Let's also not forget that once the shoulder heals up there's still the mysterious knee issue that he's been battling for 3 years.

K Major · 06-19-2017, 10:43 AM

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AsylumGuido · 06-19-2017, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Let's also not forget that once the shoulder heals up there's still the mysterious knee issue that he's been battling for 3 years.

I'm not discounting the knee. I'm just saying that the latest injury was unique and totally unrelated to any chronic issue. It could have happened to a player with no injury history at all.

jeanpierre · 06-19-2017, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not discounting the knee. I'm just saying that the latest injury was unique and totally unrelated to any chronic issue. It could have happened to a player with no injury history at all.

True.

Tyeler Davison torn his labrum during a game...

And the torn labrum for Davis Tull was done Pre-Draft...

Armstead's injury came during a bag drill of all things -

Zach Strief: Terron Armstead tore labrum in bag drill | ProFootballTalk

But Chris is right in that there's more going on with T.A.'s knee than we know, and it's chronic and problematic...

...and scary conditions like what Vilma had (arthritis) is creeping into the discussion threads...

Rugby Saint II · 06-22-2017, 06:38 PM

I swear to God that we are the unluckiest team in the league! We are truly snake bit.

SmashMouth · 06-22-2017, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I swear to God that we are the unluckiest team in the league! We are truly snake bit.

Do we need new strength and conditioning trainers?

06-19-2017, 08:13 AM	#71
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06-19-2017, 09:08 AM	#72
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Armstead is good, when healthy, but when was he last healthy? Armstead's body is either breaking down or he isn't training properly.

06-19-2017, 09:37 AM	#73
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by K Major Armstead's body is either breaking down or he isn't training properly. This labrum injury really didn't have anything to do with either. It was a freak accident. From what I understand he slipped on a mat and landed directly on a shoulder. That would cause the ball to grind into the joint and tear the labrum. If he would have been in pads they would have cushioned the impact and would would have most likely been fine. The world's healthiest athlete would have fared any better in that scenario. It was just bum luck with a degree of blame belonging, once again, to the CBA which prohibited practicing in pads until later.
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06-19-2017, 10:01 AM	#74
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This labrum injury really didn't have anything to do with either. It was a freak accident. From what I understand he slipped on a mat and landed directly on a shoulder. That would cause the ball to grind into the joint and tear the labrum. If he would have been in pads they would have cushioned the impact and would would have most likely been fine. The world's healthiest athlete would have fared any better in that scenario. It was just bum luck with a degree of blame belonging, once again, to the CBA which prohibited practicing in pads until later. We all get the "freak" injuries however this is becoming a theme for Armstead. The big fella simply can't stay healthy. As JP stated earlier, when is he ever 100%?

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Let's also not forget that once the shoulder heals up there's still the mysterious knee issue that he's been battling for 3 years. dizzle88 and K Major like this.

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06-19-2017, 10:43 AM	#76
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Let's also not forget that once the shoulder heals up there's still the mysterious knee issue that he's been battling for 3 years. I'm not discounting the knee. I'm just saying that the latest injury was unique and totally unrelated to any chronic issue. It could have happened to a player with no injury history at all. ChrisXVI likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not discounting the knee. I'm just saying that the latest injury was unique and totally unrelated to any chronic issue. It could have happened to a player with no injury history at all. True. Tyeler Davison torn his labrum during a game... And the torn labrum for Davis Tull was done Pre-Draft... Armstead's injury came during a bag drill of all things - Zach Strief: Terron Armstead tore labrum in bag drill \| ProFootballTalk But Chris is right in that there's more going on with T.A.'s knee than we know, and it's chronic and problematic... ...and scary conditions like what Vilma had (arthritis) is creeping into the discussion threads... ChrisXVI likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,209 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I swear to God that we are the unluckiest team in the league! We are truly snake bit. Do we need new strength and conditioning trainers?

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