Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley

07-10-2017, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I like Tyler Davison, but he's actually about the same size as Sheldon Rankins. Heck, Onyemata is as well. Vita Vea at 6-4, 340 lbs sure would look good clogging up the middle!

Yeah they're all about 6-2 to 6-4 300 pounds give or take. Must be going for speed over size

K Major · 07-10-2017, 09:50 AM

Go back to the 2013 draft for a moment ....

I know Hindsight is 20/20 however Brandon Williams was still on the board but we chose the big marshmallow (John Jenkins). Brandon was the one interior lineman who could have helped us in the trenches. He's still balling out of control up in Baltimore.

I'm so glad Ryan Pace is no longer in New Orleans

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spkb25 · 07-10-2017, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Go back to the 2013 draft for a moment ....

we chose the big marshmallow (John Jenkins). .

LMMFAO

AsylumGuido · 07-10-2017, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

But that is like saying how beneficial it would be for Chase Daniel if Drew went down because he'd get extra reps. I mean yeah it would be really good for Chase, I guess, but is it better for the team?

No. There is a big difference. Chase Daniel was signed to be nothing more than a backup with no plan for him to ever have to play a meaningful snap. Rankins and Onyemata are hopefully future starters and any playing time will get them closer to that goal. The same can be said for the Ramczyk/Armstead situation. And nobody said losing either Armstead or Fairley was better for the team. We simply said given the situation at least there can be positive ramifications.

skymike · 07-12-2017, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head.
- and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day.

jeanpierre · 07-12-2017, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

Originally Posted by skymike

I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day.

Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt...

I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow...

K Major · 07-12-2017, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt...

I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow...

Looking at the highlight in real time ... oh boy

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jeanpierre · 07-12-2017, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Vita Vea*, NT, Washington
Height: 6-5. Weight: 332.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.
4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack.

My fandom has me really believing we'll be picking at No. 32 in the next draft...

If not , Vea is projected as a mid-first-round pick as of now and we should make every effort to take the Big Boy...

K Major · 07-12-2017, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Think of adding Vea to that line next season and we're set for a while up front for a few years.

True but a ton of things are yet to happen between now and the draft. A ton.
There's no guarantee that the guys who are ranked highly now will even be 1st round NT next year. I remember Andrew Bilings was a top 10 pick on a lot of draft boards around this time last year.

Dude dropped to the 4th round.

hagan714 · 07-13-2017, 07:44 AM

Greg Gabriel: Breaking down Washington DT Vita Vea
He may only be a two-down player in the NFL, but Vea will be a valuable interior lineman
Greg Gabriel: Breaking down Washington DT Vita Vea | Pro Football Weekly

There is the biggest under rated part of his game. He maintains the pocket and pushes double teams backwards freeing up the others. Huge mistake to under estimate him as a 2 down defender. Dude is not a fat man at NT. he is just a freaking huge man.

07-10-2017, 09:18 AM	#31
Threaded by spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I like Tyler Davison, but he's actually about the same size as Sheldon Rankins. Heck, Onyemata is as well. Vita Vea at 6-4, 340 lbs sure would look good clogging up the middle! Yeah they're all about 6-2 to 6-4 300 pounds give or take. Must be going for speed over size
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07-10-2017, 09:50 AM	#32
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Go back to the 2013 draft for a moment .... I know Hindsight is 20/20 however Brandon Williams was still on the board but we chose the big marshmallow (John Jenkins). Brandon was the one interior lineman who could have helped us in the trenches. He's still balling out of control up in Baltimore. I'm so glad Ryan Pace is no longer in New Orleans . hagan714, dizzle88, ChrisXVI and 2 others like this.

07-10-2017, 11:08 AM	#33
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by K Major Go back to the 2013 draft for a moment .... we chose the big marshmallow (John Jenkins). . LMMFAO

07-10-2017, 12:41 PM	#34
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by spkb25 But that is like saying how beneficial it would be for Chase Daniel if Drew went down because he'd get extra reps. I mean yeah it would be really good for Chase, I guess, but is it better for the team? No. There is a big difference. Chase Daniel was signed to be nothing more than a backup with no plan for him to ever have to play a meaningful snap. Rankins and Onyemata are hopefully future starters and any playing time will get them closer to that goal. The same can be said for the Ramczyk/Armstead situation. And nobody said losing either Armstead or Fairley was better for the team. We simply said given the situation at least there can be positive ramifications.

07-12-2017, 06:28 AM	#35
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head. - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... Originally Posted by skymike I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day. Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt... I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow... skymike likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt... I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow... Looking at the highlight in real time ... oh boy .

07-12-2017, 10:20 AM	#38
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by ChrisXVI *Vita Vea, NT, Washington** Height: 6-5. Weight: 332. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack. My fandom has me really believing we'll be picking at No. 32 in the next draft... If not , Vea is projected as a mid-first-round pick as of now and we should make every effort to take the Big Boy...

07-12-2017, 11:55 AM	#39
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by halloween 65 Think of adding Vea to that line next season and we're set for a while up front for a few years. True but a ton of things are yet to happen between now and the draft. A ton. There's no guarantee that the guys who are ranked highly now will even be 1st round NT next year. I remember Andrew Bilings was a top 10 pick on a lot of draft boards around this time last year. Dude dropped to the 4th round. hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.

07-13-2017, 07:44 AM	#40
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Greg Gabriel: Breaking down Washington DT Vita Vea He may only be a two-down player in the NFL, but Vea will be a valuable interior lineman Greg Gabriel: Breaking down Washington DT Vita Vea \| Pro Football Weekly There is the biggest under rated part of his game. He maintains the pocket and pushes double teams backwards freeing up the others. Huge mistake to under estimate him as a 2 down defender. Dude is not a fat man at NT. he is just a freaking huge man. halloween 65 likes this.

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