Ranking the NFC South: Running backs

K Major · 07-13-2017, 10:16 AM

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Panthers ranked #1 (NFC South) ??

AsylumGuido · 07-13-2017, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ranking the NFC South: Running backs | NOLA.com

Panthers ranked #1 (NFC South) ??

They are apparently counting Scam Newton as a RB. The thing is that when he does become a part of the running game is when it succeeds. But that has become a double edged sword. Defenses have learned to absolutely punish Newton whenever does tuck it and run and it really affects his overall play. See last season. He is a one trick pony and the league has learned that trick. Just beat the crap out of him. Don't worry about a few flags. If you don't beat him up he'll get 15 on the ground instead.

K Major · 07-13-2017, 11:12 AM

Cam took an absolute beating vs Denver last year ... I mean he was treated like one of those old school QB's out of the 70's (also see game vs AZ where Campbell almost took him out).

I just don't see Cam "the runner" as a major threat & I don't expect the refs to do him any favors (especially since he called em out mid-season) either. So that leaves Stewart and X the unknown (Christian McCaffery). I'd rank them #3 at best.

I think the filthy birds two headed monster is far more lethal & should be ranked #1 going into the 2017 season.

halloween 65 · 07-13-2017, 11:15 AM

I think we could have a very good ground game. If we run a good balanced attack with quick strike potential, the O is hard on defenses. But if we have to consistantly have to play catch up because of the D, the run game is out the window.

CharityMike · 07-13-2017, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I think we could have a very good ground game. If we run a good balanced attack with quick strike potential, the O is hard on defenses.

Agree!! I think there order is off. At this moment, I'd say Craplanta, Saints, Panties and Tampa. I am also looking forward to see if craplanta loosing Shannahan will hurt there running game. I am pretty sure it will.

Utah_Saint · 07-13-2017, 03:54 PM

It's very odd that they would rank Carolina's Running Backs #1 in the division.

Fozzy Whittaker is their only RB that averaged more than 4.0 ypa. Stewart averaged a measly 3.8 ypa. Cam's rushing ability is a huge factor in game planning but in reality, last year he ranked 5th in total rushing yards for QBs and had a very pedestrian 4.0 ypa. If you remove him from the rushing totals for the team, the Panthers rushing attack was in the bottom quarter of the league.

Removing QB rushing totals,
Falcons 1,811
Saints 1,722
Panthers 1,455
Bucs 1,448

When you add in receiving yards, the difference is even more distinct.
RB receiving yards:
Falcons 946
Saints 884
Bucs 469
Panthers 369

Atlanta has a legitimate argument that they have the best RB duo in the league. I don't see a single statistic that would indicate Carolina RBs are the best in the division. Teope may be expecting big things from McCaffery but I don't think it's realist to think he will single handedly vault the Panthers RB unit from below average to the best in the division.

Rugby Saint II · 07-13-2017, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

It's very odd that they would rank Carolina's Running Backs #1 in the division.

Fozzy Whittaker is their only RB that averaged more than 4.0 ypa. Stewart averaged a measly 3.8 ypa. Cam's rushing ability is a huge factor in game planning but in reality, last year he ranked 5th in total rushing yards for QBs and had a very pedestrian 4.0 ypa. If you remove him from the rushing totals for the team, the Panthers rushing attack was in the bottom quarter of the league.

Removing QB rushing totals,
Falcons 1,811
Saints 1,722
Panthers 1,455
Bucs 1,448

When you add in receiving yards, the difference is even more distinct.
RB receiving yards:
Falcons 946
Saints 884
Bucs 469
Panthers 369

Atlanta has a legitimate argument that they have the best RB duo in the league. I don't see a single statistic that would indicate Carolina RBs are the best in the division. Teope may be expecting big things from McCaffery but I don't think it's realist to think he will single handedly vault the Panthers RB unit from below average to the best in the division.

I like the way you think.

hagan714 · 07-13-2017, 09:49 PM

1st problem for Cam is the scouting report on him. Hit him early and often and he gets rattled.

2nd problem for Cam is the entire NFL knows it.

3rd problem for Cam is he can not handle it mentally nor emotionally. He is close to becoming the biggest baby in the NFL

Beastmode · 07-13-2017, 10:06 PM

lb for lb I would put Falcons first but only because we have two unknown factors. On paper I would put us 1st. Bucs, not even going there. Panthers, a running QB that has been snuffed out and what they signed really does not fit IMO with their offense.

RailBoss · 07-14-2017, 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Cam took an absolute beating vs Denver last year ... I mean he was treated like one of those old school QB's out of the 70's (also see game vs AZ where Campbell almost took him out).

I just don't see Cam "the runner" as a major threat & I don't expect the refs to do him any favors (especially since he called em out mid-season) either. So that leaves Stewart and X the unknown (Christian McCaffery). I'd rank them #3 at best.

I think the filthy birds two headed monster is far more lethal & should be ranked #1 going into the 2017 season.

Exactly running QB's don't last long in the NFL
Cam RG-3 Vick to name a few, however early on
they do give even good Defenses fits.

07-13-2017, 10:36 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,224	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs Originally Posted by K Major Ranking the NFC South: Running backs \| NOLA.com Panthers ranked #1 (NFC South) ?? They are apparently counting Scam Newton as a RB. The thing is that when he does become a part of the running game is when it succeeds. But that has become a double edged sword. Defenses have learned to absolutely punish Newton whenever does tuck it and run and it really affects his overall play. See last season. He is a one trick pony and the league has learned that trick. Just beat the crap out of him. Don't worry about a few flags. If you don't beat him up he'll get 15 on the ground instead. MatthewT and Rugby Saint II like this.
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07-13-2017, 11:12 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs Cam took an absolute beating vs Denver last year ... I mean he was treated like one of those old school QB's out of the 70's (also see game vs AZ where Campbell almost took him out). I just don't see Cam "the runner" as a major threat & I don't expect the refs to do him any favors (especially since he called em out mid-season) either. So that leaves Stewart and X the unknown (Christian McCaffery). I'd rank them #3 at best. I think the filthy birds two headed monster is far more lethal & should be ranked #1 going into the 2017 season.
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07-13-2017, 11:15 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs I think we could have a very good ground game. If we run a good balanced attack with quick strike potential, the O is hard on defenses. But if we have to consistantly have to play catch up because of the D, the run game is out the window. CharityMike likes this.

07-13-2017, 02:15 PM	#5
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs Originally Posted by halloween 65 I think we could have a very good ground game. If we run a good balanced attack with quick strike potential, the O is hard on defenses. Agree!! I think there order is off. At this moment, I'd say Craplanta, Saints, Panties and Tampa. I am also looking forward to see if craplanta loosing Shannahan will hurt there running game. I am pretty sure it will.

07-13-2017, 03:54 PM	#6
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs It's very odd that they would rank Carolina's Running Backs #1 in the division. Fozzy Whittaker is their only RB that averaged more than 4.0 ypa. Stewart averaged a measly 3.8 ypa. Cam's rushing ability is a huge factor in game planning but in reality, last year he ranked 5th in total rushing yards for QBs and had a very pedestrian 4.0 ypa. If you remove him from the rushing totals for the team, the Panthers rushing attack was in the bottom quarter of the league. Removing QB rushing totals, Falcons 1,811 Saints 1,722 Panthers 1,455 Bucs 1,448 When you add in receiving yards, the difference is even more distinct. RB receiving yards: Falcons 946 Saints 884 Bucs 469 Panthers 369 Atlanta has a legitimate argument that they have the best RB duo in the league. I don't see a single statistic that would indicate Carolina RBs are the best in the division. Teope may be expecting big things from McCaffery but I don't think it's realist to think he will single handedly vault the Panthers RB unit from below average to the best in the division. Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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07-13-2017, 06:25 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs Originally Posted by Utah_Saint It's very odd that they would rank Carolina's Running Backs #1 in the division. Fozzy Whittaker is their only RB that averaged more than 4.0 ypa. Stewart averaged a measly 3.8 ypa. Cam's rushing ability is a huge factor in game planning but in reality, last year he ranked 5th in total rushing yards for QBs and had a very pedestrian 4.0 ypa. If you remove him from the rushing totals for the team, the Panthers rushing attack was in the bottom quarter of the league. Removing QB rushing totals, Falcons 1,811 Saints 1,722 Panthers 1,455 Bucs 1,448 When you add in receiving yards, the difference is even more distinct. RB receiving yards: Falcons 946 Saints 884 Bucs 469 Panthers 369 Atlanta has a legitimate argument that they have the best RB duo in the league. I don't see a single statistic that would indicate Carolina RBs are the best in the division. Teope may be expecting big things from McCaffery but I don't think it's realist to think he will single handedly vault the Panthers RB unit from below average to the best in the division. I like the way you think. Utah_Saint likes this.

07-13-2017, 09:49 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs 1st problem for Cam is the scouting report on him. Hit him early and often and he gets rattled. 2nd problem for Cam is the entire NFL knows it. 3rd problem for Cam is he can not handle it mentally nor emotionally. He is close to becoming the biggest baby in the NFL MatthewT and RailBoss like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs lb for lb I would put Falcons first but only because we have two unknown factors. On paper I would put us 1st. Bucs, not even going there. Panthers, a running QB that has been snuffed out and what they signed really does not fit IMO with their offense.
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07-14-2017, 02:38 AM	#10
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Ranking the NFC South: Running backs Originally Posted by K Major Cam took an absolute beating vs Denver last year ... I mean he was treated like one of those old school QB's out of the 70's (also see game vs AZ where Campbell almost took him out). I just don't see Cam "the runner" as a major threat & I don't expect the refs to do him any favors (especially since he called em out mid-season) either. So that leaves Stewart and X the unknown (Christian McCaffery). I'd rank them #3 at best. I think the filthy birds two headed monster is far more lethal & should be ranked #1 going into the 2017 season. Exactly running QB's don't last long in the NFL Cam RG-3 Vick to name a few, however early on they do give even good Defenses fits.

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