Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley

jeanpierre · 07-07-2017, 10:21 PM

Another one of several issues I had with giving Fairley an extension was that I felt both he and Rankins were the same position...

And that posed a road block of sorts to Rankins being able to justify his high selection in the draft last season...

I understood they were used together on passing plays quite a bit, but we really need that massive NT to tye up two interior blockers...

And that'd allow Rankins to be our Aaron Donald type of disrupting 3-tech shortening that clock for the opposing offense to get a play off...

With two disrupters, if one gets hot, then they could simply swing their protection over to the hot pass rusher...

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

hagan714 · 07-08-2017, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Another one of several issues I had with giving Fairley an extension was that I felt both he and Rankins were the same position...

And that posed a road block of sorts to Rankins being able to justify his high selection in the draft last season...

I understood they were used together on passing plays quite a bit, but we really need that massive NT to tye up two interior blockers...

And that'd allow Rankins to be our Aaron Donald type of disrupting 3-tech shortening that clock for the opposing offense to get a play off...

With two disrupters, if one gets hot, then they could simply swing their protection over to the hot pass rusher...

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up.

Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short

as

???????? is to Sheldon Rankins

Rankins will only be as good as the players around him.

AsylumGuido · 07-08-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up.

Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short

as

???????? is to Sheldon Rankins

Rankins will only be as good as the players around him.

Where is that tree from which they are plucked?

ChrisXVI · 07-08-2017, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up.

Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short

as

???????? is to Sheldon Rankins

Rankins will only be as good as the players around him.

Da'Ron Payne*, NT, Alabama
Height: 6-2. Weight: 319.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2018): 1-2.
4/13/17: Scouts who have looked ahead to the 2018 class have raved about Payne's potential. Coming from Alabama, it isn't a stretch as Payne could take on the lead role for the Crimson Tide with Jonathan Allen moving on to the NFL. Payne is a run plugger with a lot of potential to grow.

Christian Wilkins*, NT, Clemson
Height: 6-4. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.
4/13/17: Wilkins played well for Clemson in 2016 as part of a tough defensive line that controlled the point of attack. The sophomore recorded 48 tackles with 13 tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks and 10 passes batted. Wilkins made 33 tackles and two sacks as a freshman in 2015. He has a nice skill set with upside.

Vita Vea*, NT, Washington
Height: 6-5. Weight: 332.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.
4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack.

hagan714 · 07-08-2017, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Vita Vea*, NT, Washington
Height: 6-5. Weight: 332.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.
4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack.

He is a my #1 DT/NT going into the season. A true double team beast

K Major · 07-09-2017, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

He is a my #1 DT/NT going into the season. A true double team beast

Christian Wilkins (Clemson) ain't bad either.

hagan714 · 07-10-2017, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Christian Wilkins (Clemson) ain't bad either.

Agreed and he is a top 5 IMO. If he continues to develop mare of a well rounded skill set and consistency I will be happy to move him up the board.

Right now it is upside on most draft boards which means he has not done it yet but the odds he will are good.

he gets the keep a close

on him going into the season

jeanpierre · 07-12-2017, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Vita Vea*, NT, Washington
Height: 6-5. Weight: 332.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3.
4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack.

My fandom has me really believing we'll be picking at No. 32 in the next draft...

If not , Vea is projected as a mid-first-round pick as of now and we should make every effort to take the Big Boy...

skymike · 07-12-2017, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head.
- and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day.

jeanpierre · 07-12-2017, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style...

Originally Posted by skymike

I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day.

Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt...

I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Another one of several issues I had with giving Fairley an extension was that I felt both he and Rankins were the same position... And that posed a road block of sorts to Rankins being able to justify his high selection in the draft last season... I understood they were used together on passing plays quite a bit, but we really need that massive NT to tye up two interior blockers... And that'd allow Rankins to be our Aaron Donald type of disrupting 3-tech shortening that clock for the opposing offense to get a play off... With two disrupters, if one gets hot, then they could simply swing their protection over to the hot pass rusher... With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... skymike and Rugby Saint II like this.
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07-08-2017, 04:17 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre Another one of several issues I had with giving Fairley an extension was that I felt both he and Rankins were the same position... And that posed a road block of sorts to Rankins being able to justify his high selection in the draft last season... I understood they were used together on passing plays quite a bit, but we really need that massive NT to tye up two interior blockers... And that'd allow Rankins to be our Aaron Donald type of disrupting 3-tech shortening that clock for the opposing offense to get a play off... With two disrupters, if one gets hot, then they could simply swing their protection over to the hot pass rusher... With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up. Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short as ???????? is to Sheldon Rankins Rankins will only be as good as the players around him. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by hagan714 Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up. Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short as ???????? is to Sheldon Rankins Rankins will only be as good as the players around him. Where is that tree from which they are plucked? jeanpierre likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by hagan714 Yep we need a run stuffing, block eating NT that can push the pocket and free him up. Lotulelei Star is to Kawann Short as ???????? is to Sheldon Rankins Rankins will only be as good as the players around him. *Da'Ron Payne, NT, Alabama Height: 6-2. Weight: 319. Projected 40 Time: 5.10. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 4/13/17: Scouts who have looked ahead to the 2018 class have raved about Payne's potential. Coming from Alabama, it isn't a stretch as Payne could take on the lead role for the Crimson Tide with Jonathan Allen moving on to the NFL. Payne is a run plugger with a lot of potential to grow. Christian Wilkins, NT, Clemson* Height: 6-4. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.00. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 4/13/17: Wilkins played well for Clemson in 2016 as part of a tough defensive line that controlled the point of attack. The sophomore recorded 48 tackles with 13 tackles for a loss, 3.5 sacks and 10 passes batted. Wilkins made 33 tackles and two sacks as a freshman in 2015. He has a nice skill set with upside. *Vita Vea, NT, Washington** Height: 6-5. Weight: 332. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by ChrisXVI *Vita Vea, NT, Washington** Height: 6-5. Weight: 332. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack. He is a my #1 DT/NT going into the season. A true double team beast Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and halloween 65 like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by hagan714 He is a my #1 DT/NT going into the season. A true double team beast Christian Wilkins (Clemson) ain't bad either.

07-10-2017, 05:22 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by K Major Christian Wilkins (Clemson) ain't bad either. Agreed and he is a top 5 IMO. If he continues to develop mare of a well rounded skill set and consistency I will be happy to move him up the board. Right now it is upside on most draft boards which means he has not done it yet but the odds he will are good. he gets the keep a close on him going into the season Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by ChrisXVI *Vita Vea, NT, Washington** Height: 6-5. Weight: 332. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 4/13/17: Vea was a load at the point of attack for Washington in 2016. He totaled 39 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss, five sacks, one force fumble and two passes batted. Vea has a serious combination of size, length, strength, and quickness at the point of attack. My fandom has me really believing we'll be picking at No. 32 in the next draft... If not , Vea is projected as a mid-first-round pick as of now and we should make every effort to take the Big Boy...

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skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head. - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley Originally Posted by jeanpierre With the big NT, if you tried to pass-block him with just a center, you could potentially get your quarterback killed Jim Burt style... Originally Posted by skymike I get that reference... can still see the hit in my head - and so can Joe Montana, if he can remember that day. Joe Montana was never the same after that MDK (Murder-Death-Kill) from Jim Burt... I believe he had a separated sternum from that blow... skymike likes this.

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