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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't think the article or anyone is saying that it is beneficial as a whole to have lost Fairley. It is, however, most likely to be beneficial in the quicker development of Rankins and the ...

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Old 07-08-2017, 10:33 AM   #1
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Re: Sheldon Rankins has chance to be more effective than Nick Fairley

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I don't think the article or anyone is saying that it is beneficial as a whole to have lost Fairley. It is, however, most likely to be beneficial in the quicker development of Rankins and the other young DT's. Finding a silver lining in a cloud is not the same thing as totally ignoring the cloud. We lost Fairley and there is nothing that can be done about that fact. Why not look for any positive affects of the situation to build upon?
Because I don't think there is anything positive about it. That's the point. There is nothing good about losing starters. We have to move on and that is a fact of life, especially in the NFL. I think we can be okay and I actually applaud the quick work of the front office to look for and find what appears to be a very solid signing in McDaniel. So can we overcome it, yes, but I don't see anything positive about it. It is what it is, as they say, but that doesn't mean I need to find the good. We just need to look at what we have and discuss if it will be enough etc.

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Because I don't think there is anything positive about it. That's the point. There is nothing good about losing starters. We have to move on and that is a fact of life, especially in the NFL. I think we can be okay and I actually applaud the quick work of the front office to look for and find what appears to be a very solid signing in McDaniel. So can we overcome it, yes, but I don't see anything positive about it. It is what it is, as they say, but that doesn't mean I need to find the good. We just need to look at what we have and discuss if it will be enough etc.
So you see nothing positive about Rankins and Onyemata getting extra work and progressing faster? If you don't it is because you are turning a blind eye toward it. Our minister preached a sermon on this very subject just two weeks ago. Bad things happen in life but in almost every scenario something can be found to embrace. Lessons can be learned. Opportunities can be discovered.

Finding the good, finding the positive is a choice. It isn't that it isn't there. You personally simply choose to ignore it.
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Because I don't think there is anything positive about it. That's the point. There is nothing good about losing starters. We have to move on and that is a fact of life, especially in the NFL. I think we can be okay and I actually applaud the quick work of the front office to look for and find what appears to be a very solid signing in McDaniel. So can we overcome it, yes, but I don't see anything positive about it. It is what it is, as they say, but that doesn't mean I need to find the good. We just need to look at what we have and discuss if it will be enough etc.
I understand your thinking. I thought so myself initially. However, after some reflection I realized that giving Davison and Onyamata extra reps should increase their situational awareness and make them much more effective under our new D-line coach.

Rankins will not produce like Fairley immediately but he can grow into the position with a clear cut and defined role for the future. Now we can draft that true double team player to play a NT type of position(I say that because I think a nose tackle plays a 3-4).

Also, with change comes the opportunity for growth and evolution. I agree with Danno's pastor. God doesn't close a door without opening a window.

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I understand your thinking. I thought so myself initially. However, after some reflection I realized that giving Davison and Onyamata extra reps should increase their situational awareness and make them much more effective under our new D-line coach.

Rankins will not produce like Fairley immediately but he can grow into the position with a clear cut and defined role for the future. Now we can draft that true double team player to play a NT type of position(I say that because I think a nose tackle plays a 3-4).

Also, with change comes the opportunity for growth and evolution. I agree with Danno's pastor. God doesn't close a door without opening a window.
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I understand your thinking. I thought so myself initially. However, after some reflection I realized that giving Davison and Onyamata extra reps should increase their situational awareness and make them much more effective under our new D-line coach.

Rankins will not produce like Fairley immediately but he can grow into the position with a clear cut and defined role for the future. Now we can draft that true double team player to play a NT type of position(I say that because I think a nose tackle plays a 3-4).

Also, with change comes the opportunity for growth and evolution. I agree with Danno's pastor. God doesn't close a door without opening a window.
But that is like saying how beneficial it would be for Chase Daniel if Drew went down because he'd get extra reps. I mean yeah it would be really good for Chase, I guess, but is it better for the team?
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But that is like saying how beneficial it would be for Chase Daniel if Drew went down because he'd get extra reps. I mean yeah it would be really good for Chase, I guess, but is it better for the team?
No. There is a big difference. Chase Daniel was signed to be nothing more than a backup with no plan for him to ever have to play a meaningful snap. Rankins and Onyemata are hopefully future starters and any playing time will get them closer to that goal. The same can be said for the Ramczyk/Armstead situation. And nobody said losing either Armstead or Fairley was better for the team. We simply said given the situation at least there can be positive ramifications.
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