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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Payton is on the coolest seat in the NFC South, if not the coolest in the entire NFC. As long as the Benson's own the team the only way he leaves is going to be his ...

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Old 07-14-2017, 05:32 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Payton is on the coolest seat in the NFC South, if not the coolest in the entire NFC. As long as the Benson's own the team the only way he leaves is going to be his decision regardless of record.
Another losing season either he or Brees will be gone. My guess is Payton stays and Brees walks. I don't see him putting up with another losing season. Bree's and Payton have publically butted heads more than once over the past couple seasons.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:38 PM   #2
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Another losing season either he or Brees will be gone. My guess is Payton stays and Brees walks. I don't see him putting up with another losing season. Bree's (sic) and Payton have publically (sic) butted heads more than once over the past couple seasons.
Publicly (try spelling that and our QB's name right) butted heads? Post right now exactly where Brees and Payton have publicly butted heads multiple times over the past couple of seasons.

You are as wrong about that as you are about your other flimsy premise.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:11 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Publicly (try spelling that and our QB's name right) butted heads? Post right now exactly where Brees and Payton have publicly butted heads multiple times over the past couple of seasons.

You are as wrong about that as you are about your other flimsy premise.
It's spell check you jackass and I'm not gonna dig for it but Brees changed a play even though Payton specifically told him not to. They jawed at each other on the sidelines and both said something about it in the press conference .afterward. I remember at least two other times that happened.
Pair that with the tweet Brees made about being tired of saying "next year"
Add that up with his year to year contract and only an idiot can't see that writing on the wall.
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Old 07-16-2017, 12:39 AM   #4
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It's spell check you jackass and I'm not gonna dig for it but Brees changed a play even though Payton specifically told him not to. They jawed at each other on the sidelines and both said something about it in the press conference .afterward. I remember at least two other times that happened.
Pair that with the tweet Brees made about being tired of saying "next year"
Add that up with his year to year contract and only an idiot can't see that writing on the wall.
You are seeing writing on a wall that isn't there. That is being an idiot. And you didn't show me where Brees and Payton have "publicly butted heads" on multiple occasions. You didn't show me crap because it isn't there. If it was public you should be able to show me links to published accounts of public head butting. Once again, you are totally full of $hit. Trying to invent some imaginary rift between the coach and the QB to satisfy some underlying motive. Grow up. You just claimed three explicit incidences of public butting of heads. Jawing at each other. You are a big boy. Try google if you think they actually exist. If you can't come up with them then you have proved you are full of it.

And Brees NEVER made any tweet about being tired of saying "next year". You can't get anything right, can you?

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Old 07-16-2017, 02:02 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
You are seeing writing on a wall that isn't there. That is being an idiot. And you didn't show me where Brees and Payton have "publicly butted heads" on multiple occasions. You didn't show me crap because it isn't there. If it was public you should be able to show me links to published accounts of public head butting. Once again, you are totally full of $hit. Trying to invent some imaginary rift between the coach and the QB to satisfy some underlying motive. Grow up. You just claimed three explicit incidences of public butting of heads. Jawing at each other. You are a big boy. Try google if you think they actually exist. If you can't come up with them then you have proved you are full of it.

And Brees NEVER made any tweet about being tired of saying "next year".
I can vouch for this; I just read every one of Drew's tweets dating back to December and nothing was said about "tired" of saying next year...
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:31 AM   #6
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I can vouch for this; I just read every one of Drew's tweets dating back to December and nothing was said about "tired" of saying next year...
There was no need. I have addressed this exact same lie in this forum on two separate occasions, the last one being exactly one month ago by The Dude himself.

With this post ...

Being guaranteed that The Dude will be too lazy to click on the link I will post his lie right here and my proof that he simply has no idea about dealing with facts.

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That's my expectation, yes. Playoffs or get out. Ever think Drew is thinking the same?
I do. He did tweet that he was getting tired of telling himself "wait till next year". Given the time it could have been simply frustration but it is very uncharacteristic of him to put something like that on social media.
I think it will depend on how the season goes. If we miss the playoffs with an 11-5 or so record and he sees positive development he stays.

If not I think he moves on.

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Here is what I posted in response:

Once again, try getting your facts straight. It would have been uncharacteristic of Brees to put something like that on social media because he never did. Brees was interviewed by Mike Nabors and Nabors posted the following tweet without any context.


Nabors later posted the following tweet explaining that the context of the quote had nothing to do with any possibility of leaving the Saints for another team. It had to do with his own career.


To further place this all in context, the interview was immediately following the final game of the season against the Falcons. Brees subsequently expressed and stressed his desire to play with the Saints well into his forties.

Do you ever research anything before you post it as fact?


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Old 07-16-2017, 11:51 AM   #7
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There was no need. I have addressed this exact same lie in this forum on two separate occasions, the last one being exactly one month ago by The Dude himself.

With this post ...

Being guaranteed that The Dude will be too lazy to click on the link I will post his lie right here and my proof that he simply has no idea about dealing with facts.

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I do. He did tweet that he was getting tired of telling himself "wait till next year". Given the time it could have been simply frustration but it is very uncharacteristic of him to put something like that on social media.
I think it will depend on how the season goes. If we miss the playoffs with an 11-5 or so record and he sees positive development he stays.

If not I think he moves on.

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Here is what I posted in response:

Once again, try getting your facts straight. It would have been uncharacteristic of Brees to put something like that on social media because he never did. Brees was interviewed by Mike Nabors and Nabors posted the following tweet without any context.

https://twitter.com/MikeNabors/statu...35466431574016

Nabors later posted the following tweet explaining that the context of the quote had nothing to do with any possibility of leaving the Saints for another team. It had to do with his own career.

https://twitter.com/MikeNabors/statu...48881799593985

To further place this all in context, the interview was immediately following the final game of the season against the Falcons. Brees subsequently expressed and stressed his desire to play with the Saints well into his forties.

Do you ever research anything before you post it as fact?


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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. In this case the horse could be described as more of a jackass.
I didn't have to research it. You just posted it right there. He was quoted saying tired of saying next year. Everything else you posted is just the reporters interpretation. Yea Brees may of said he was talking about football in general, but you seem to think everything these players and coaches say as truthful. When he said this he still had another year ahead of him. What do you expect him to say? Of course he is going to be diplomatic.

Bottom line is you said Brees didn't say it, and right there in black and white there it is.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Publicly (try spelling that and our QB's name right) butted heads? Post right now exactly where Brees and Payton have publicly butted heads multiple times over the past couple of seasons.

You are as wrong about that as you are about your other flimsy premise.
It's spell check you jackass and I'm not gonna dig for it but Brees changed a play even though Payton specifically told him not to. They jawed at each other on the sidelines and both said something about it in the press conference .afterward. I remember at least two other times that happened.
Pair that with the tweet Brees made about being tired of saying "next year"
Add that up with his year to year contract and only an idiot can't see that writing on the wall.
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Old 07-14-2017, 06:26 PM   #9
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Another losing season either he or Brees will be gone. My guess is Payton stays and Brees walks. I don't see him putting up with another losing season. Bree's and Payton have publically butted heads more than once over the past couple seasons.
I am not sure about SP and Brees, but 7-9 over and over and over again will command a change. I am hopeful this year it begins to get turned around. There are a ton of apologist and excuse makers on here. There are no excuses left for another failed season. I think we have a enough talent to compete this year. If we don't then in my opinion sean needs to go and I think it will get very close if not happen
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I am not sure about SP and Brees, but 7-9 over and over and over again will command a change. I am hopeful this year it begins to get turned around. There are a ton of apologist and excuse makers on here. There are no excuses left for another failed season. I think we have a enough talent to compete this year. If we don't then in my opinion sean needs to go and I think it will get very close if not happen
Then move Payton and Brees leaves and the Saints once again become the Cleveland Browns?

There is no way that will happen. We have a premier coach that has constantly produced a top offense and the best QB of our history.

Why are you even projecting the possibility of another "failed season"?
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