Hot Seat?

dizzle88 · 07-17-2017, 04:35 PM

I think Payton has to be on the hot seat if we don't atleast make the playoffs this year.

That would be 4 straight non playoff seasons, I really hope to god the staff changes that Payton has made pay off, but if they don't, Payton needs to held accountable.

WillSaints81 · 07-17-2017, 04:38 PM

Manning was let go, actually.

WillSaints81 · 07-17-2017, 04:39 PM

If SP is on the hot seat, I think we know how he's looking to save his job? Changing the atmosphere.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2017, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Edit: We need to remember that Payton Manning left the Colts for greener pastures.

Not quite. Peyton Manning was released by the Colts on March 7, 2012 because they were drafting what they felt like was their new Savior. He was kicked to the curb and told to have fun finding his greener pasture. He did have the last laugh, however.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2017, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think Payton has to be on the hot seat if we don't atleast make the playoffs this year.

That would be 4 straight non playoff seasons, I really hope to god the staff changes that Payton has made pay off, but if they don't, Payton needs to held accountable.

This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons love him like a son. The Bensons got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field.

If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't.

WillSaints81 · 07-17-2017, 05:13 PM

Let's just say remember that report/rumor back in spring? Guess who is working out for Payton?

dizzle88 · 07-17-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons loves him like a son. The Benson got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field.

If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't.

Well the way they have structured it doesn't seem to be paying off for us lately, let's hope that changes this season.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2017, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Well the way they have structured it doesn't seem to be paying off for us lately, let's hope that changes this season.

On that I can agree.

The Dude · 07-17-2017, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons love him like a son. The Bensons got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field.

If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't.

That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2017, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard.

Sorry buddy boy, you are stuck with it. As much as you whine and b!tch the fact is that Payton isn't going anywhere.

07-17-2017, 04:35 PM	#31
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Hot Seat? I think Payton has to be on the hot seat if we don't atleast make the playoffs this year. That would be 4 straight non playoff seasons, I really hope to god the staff changes that Payton has made pay off, but if they don't, Payton needs to held accountable. spkb25 likes this.

07-17-2017, 04:38 PM	#32
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Hot Seat? Manning was let go, actually.

07-17-2017, 04:39 PM	#33
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Hot Seat? If SP is on the hot seat, I think we know how he's looking to save his job? Changing the atmosphere.

07-17-2017, 05:05 PM	#34
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Edit: We need to remember that Payton Manning left the Colts for greener pastures. Not quite. Peyton Manning was released by the Colts on March 7, 2012 because they were drafting what they felt like was their new Savior. He was kicked to the curb and told to have fun finding his greener pasture. He did have the last laugh, however.

07-17-2017, 05:12 PM	#35
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think Payton has to be on the hot seat if we don't atleast make the playoffs this year. That would be 4 straight non playoff seasons, I really hope to god the staff changes that Payton has made pay off, but if they don't, Payton needs to held accountable. This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons love him like a son. The Bensons got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field. If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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07-17-2017, 05:13 PM	#36
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Hot Seat? Let's just say remember that report/rumor back in spring? Guess who is working out for Payton?

07-17-2017, 05:25 PM	#37
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons loves him like a son. The Benson got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field. If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't. Well the way they have structured it doesn't seem to be paying off for us lately, let's hope that changes this season. AsylumGuido likes this.

07-17-2017, 05:40 PM	#38
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Well the way they have structured it doesn't seem to be paying off for us lately, let's hope that changes this season. On that I can agree.

07-17-2017, 08:38 PM	#39
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons love him like a son. The Bensons got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field. If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't. That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard.
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07-17-2017, 08:46 PM	#40
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Hot Seat? Originally Posted by The Dude That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard. Sorry buddy boy, you are stuck with it. As much as you whine and b!tch the fact is that Payton isn't going anywhere.

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