I think Payton has to be on the hot seat if we don't atleast make the playoffs this year.

That would be 4 straight non playoff seasons, I really hope to god the staff changes that Payton has made pay off, but if they don't, Payton needs to held accountable.

This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons loves him like a son. The Benson got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field.

If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't.

Well the way they have structured it doesn't seem to be paying off for us lately, let's hope that changes this season.

This has been pointed out on several occasions by several members here, the dynamics of Benson/Loomis/Payton cannot be compared to what might happen in your average NFL hierarchy. The only person that can fire Payton is Benson and the Bensons love him like a son. The Bensons got their Lombardi before he died. If Benson lives to be 100 and every year is 7-9 Payton will remain coach as long as HE chooses. Tom Benson has a legacy now in the NFL because of Sean Payton. Hell, the stadium at the Pro Football Hall of Fame is now called Tom Benson Field.

If this was any other franchise other than perhaps the Patriots I would agree with you. But, it isn't.

That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard.

Sorry buddy boy, you are stuck with it. As much as you whine and b!tch the fact is that Payton isn't going anywhere.

Like you not ever going anywhere but mommys basement?

I was last in "mommys basement" fifty-one years ago at our home in South Dakota. Since then I have traveled to numerous foreign countries and over 30 separate ocean ports. I understand you have worked at the Carlton Ritz breakfast buffet.

I'm not even going to go there but nice try. Glad you think your so cultured and well traveled though. That's a dick measuring contest you won't win.

That right there should tell you how screwed up the Saints organization is. We were all screaming for Payton to fire all his buddies on staff and put his personal feelings aside for what is best for the team. Thank god he did. Finally. No reason ownership shouldnt be held to the same standard.