2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

hagan714 · 08-11-2017, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.

Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men.

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.

Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men.

If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Utah_Saint · 08-11-2017, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Well, the Bills are going on 17 years, the Browns are going on 14 years, the Rams are going on 12 years, the Jags and the Bucs are going on 9 years, Titans are going on 8 years...

The Dude · 08-11-2017, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Especially when you accumulate dead money consistently...

ChrisXVI · 08-11-2017, 05:43 PM

Woohoo!!!

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Woohoo!!!

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...39426362871808

The cramps that sidelined him for multiple days must have went away

dizzle88 · 08-12-2017, 02:13 AM

Ghe difference between us and those teams such as Bucs, Titans, Jags, Browns etc is they do not have a HOF QB.

We have been completely incapable of giving our HOF QB any sort of defensive help.

On 2 occasions we have traded his best receiver and got pretty much zero positive results from it.

I'm already starting to think Lattimore was the wrong pick, we should have focused upfront and drafted Barnett or someone like that.

spkb25 · 08-12-2017, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Ghe difference between us and those teams such as Bucs, Titans, Jags, Browns etc is they do not have a HOF QB.

We have been completely incapable of giving our HOF QB any sort of defensive help.

On 2 occasions we have traded his best receiver and got pretty much zero positive results from it.

I'm already starting to think Lattimore was the wrong pick, we should have focused upfront and drafted Barnett or someone like that.

Yep! How many suck years have the Patties had? How many suck years did Indy have when Manning was there? we're rocking 7-9.

Bucs got a pretty good QB in the making down there and they nearly made the playoffs last year. Titans seemed to have a pretty good QB in the making, i think they'll fight for a spot too this year.

Tell you what is scary, 3 of this years drafts picks are hurt with one coming back to the lineup today. Our secondary was 50% down 10 days into camp. Did Rankins play in the Browns game? Never even heard his name called. Then you have to worry that his success last year came because Nick was eating double teams.

I feel we have more talent and the excuses for SP are over. This year is playoffs or bust.

dizzle88 · 08-12-2017, 03:43 AM

I've got a feeling Lattimore is going to be out for months, I really hope not but he hasn't practiced or been seen since the injury.

spkb25 · 08-12-2017, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I've got a feeling Lattimore is going to be out for months, I really hope not but he hasn't practiced or been seen since the injury.

yeah, did you see the video someone posted of how he landed on his knee?

08-11-2017, 09:33 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by halloween 65 Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly. OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years. Then there is Nick Fairley 4/$28 million Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million I still can think of better ways to spend that money 2 for 1 Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million or 3/2 Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million and have 3+ million in cap space left Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million best laid plans of mice and men.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

08-11-2017, 11:09 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by hagan714 OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years. Then there is Nick Fairley 4/$28 million Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million I still can think of better ways to spend that money 2 for 1 Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million or 3/2 Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million and have 3+ million in cap space left Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million best laid plans of mice and men. If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

08-11-2017, 11:39 PM	#3
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take. Well, the Bills are going on 17 years, the Browns are going on 14 years, the Rams are going on 12 years, the Jags and the Bucs are going on 9 years, Titans are going on 8 years...

08-11-2017, 11:40 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take. Especially when you accumulate dead money consistently...
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08-11-2017, 05:43 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Woohoo!!! Twitter

08-11-2017, 05:48 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Woohoo!!! https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...39426362871808 The cramps that sidelined him for multiple days must have went away

08-12-2017, 02:13 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Ghe difference between us and those teams such as Bucs, Titans, Jags, Browns etc is they do not have a HOF QB. We have been completely incapable of giving our HOF QB any sort of defensive help. On 2 occasions we have traded his best receiver and got pretty much zero positive results from it. I'm already starting to think Lattimore was the wrong pick, we should have focused upfront and drafted Barnett or someone like that.

08-12-2017, 02:57 AM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by dizzle88 Ghe difference between us and those teams such as Bucs, Titans, Jags, Browns etc is they do not have a HOF QB. We have been completely incapable of giving our HOF QB any sort of defensive help. On 2 occasions we have traded his best receiver and got pretty much zero positive results from it. I'm already starting to think Lattimore was the wrong pick, we should have focused upfront and drafted Barnett or someone like that. Yep! How many suck years have the Patties had? How many suck years did Indy have when Manning was there? we're rocking 7-9. Bucs got a pretty good QB in the making down there and they nearly made the playoffs last year. Titans seemed to have a pretty good QB in the making, i think they'll fight for a spot too this year. Tell you what is scary, 3 of this years drafts picks are hurt with one coming back to the lineup today. Our secondary was 50% down 10 days into camp. Did Rankins play in the Browns game? Never even heard his name called. Then you have to worry that his success last year came because Nick was eating double teams. I feel we have more talent and the excuses for SP are over. This year is playoffs or bust.
	Your team stinks

08-12-2017, 03:43 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp I've got a feeling Lattimore is going to be out for months, I really hope not but he hasn't practiced or been seen since the injury.

08-12-2017, 03:57 AM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by dizzle88 I've got a feeling Lattimore is going to be out for months, I really hope not but he hasn't practiced or been seen since the injury. yeah, did you see the video someone posted of how he landed on his knee?

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