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spkb25 08-11-2017 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 758583)
Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.
Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller

halloween 65 08-11-2017 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758585)
Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller
Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in.

ChrisXVI 08-11-2017 05:43 PM
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Woohoo!!!

spkb25 08-11-2017 05:48 PM
Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 758586)
Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in.
I know...sad too

spkb25 08-11-2017 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 758588)
The cramps that sidelined him for multiple days must have went away

hagan714 08-11-2017 09:33 PM
Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 758583)
Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.


Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men. :rolleyes:

The Dude 08-11-2017 10:52 PM
Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758585)
Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller
That's what was saying. We already have Fleener. We don't need two. Lewis impresses the **** out of me

spkb25 08-11-2017 11:09 PM
Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 758619)
OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.


Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men. :rolleyes:
If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Utah_Saint 08-11-2017 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758623)
If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.
Well, the Bills are going on 17 years, the Browns are going on 14 years, the Rams are going on 12 years, the Jags and the Bucs are going on 9 years, Titans are going on 8 years...

The Dude 08-11-2017 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 758623)
If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.
Especially when you accumulate dead money consistently...


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