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He gets deep, sometimes too deep. I sometimes have a really hard time reading between his lines and have to read it several times and other times I think he screws with peoples heads. I have to say when I think he's messing with their heads he does a good job. It's kind of comical and he takes a beating for it. I usually don't respond because I don't think I could take half the beating that guy does. Not saying a word is sometimes best for me I learned that being married, it's gotten me out of jams for nearly 17 years with my wife so far.

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I don't find much of it to be deep. I think he over-analyzes much of the time. He says a lot of things that can be broken down into a couple of short paragraphs, as if he's trying impress us with all the information he's putting up. But that's whatever. It's the other things that just get to be too much drama for me.

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18 yrs here brother. I know exactly what you mean lol.

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Smart man. Congrats.

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Been saying it for the last 2 yrs total clean house and i mean total everyone scouts gm coaches trainers waterboys towel girls etc

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Disagree 100%. We have already wiped every assistant to the assistant out. Now if you say, head coach, OC and GM..ok

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Why did we activate FOUR RB's ???? And not sterling moore or Ken crawley. DA come on Im trying to wait 4 weks before I call for your head but you are making it hard. What I hate the most is having to hear how magical Sam Bradford is.

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Don't ask me about the game... I'm watching the movie... :popcorn:

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Drew hits Lewis and Coleman holds on everybody would feel different. We settled for too many FGs.

:bng:

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And we didn't capitalize on possible turnovers. We could have had a interception and a fumble recovery but..the ball don't ever bounce our way anymore. We used up all the good ball bounces in 2009.

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Damn I couldn't watch my power is still out but I'm sorry I had so much faith in our coach. Our defense sucks again and against the Vikings no less. AP was probably telling him run the ball u ass. I'm surprised it wasn't 27 to 3 Vikings I still think we'll beat the patriots but if not our season is over gentleman and Payton should quit.
Another losing season with all those weapons. I don't think so!

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We made Sam the Sham look like QB of the decade, just wait till Mr. Brady
steps into the Dome. Plus we will be working on a short week of preparation. But we are the Saints and as they say anything goes here in New Orleans.

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Yeah. I believe so. Drew Brees too.

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We have heard the same song for 4 years now, although it started with Week 8 in 2014. Now we are down to Week 4. So progress in shortening the leash?

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I am sick and tired of hearing how good Drew Brees is and how smart Payton is. It's a bunch of crap and every year they try and suck you in to believing that they have made the right moves. Drew and Payton's time here should be over. We have an owner who has lost the capacity or the mind to make changes and totally clean house. We need a whole new management team from the top down. Peterson should have been used more and Payton's numbskull mind doesn't know how to handle it anymore. I am done with this and I hope they lose every game so we can at least start moving forward.

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I miss the offseason. That was a simpler time.

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That was too funny.

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Vikings got rid of their entire O line and Bradford had all the time in the world and played his best game ever against Saints. Brees is under pressure most of the game. Improved the defense and now no O line. Streif gone?

We can't play against a good defense, looking like 7-9 again.

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You're entitled to your opinion if you believe that a fairly equal ratio of run to pass, equals success, but I disagree with you. The holes simply were not there, with the exception of two, maybe three runs. It's one of the main reasons we kept stalling and settling for field goals.

When we decided to throw the ball down the field, even a little bit, we had some success, which is why it was so maddening to see how gun shy Payton was about calling more aggressive plays. But, for some reason, when we got into the red zone we suddenly abandoned what got us there, and stalled.

When we scored 10 points in the 4th quarter, we were throwing the ball down the field. It sure wasn't the running game that got us going then. Of course, we had to run the play clock down to 10 seconds or less on just about every play when we were supposed to be in hurry up. There was no sense of urgency, at any point, even when we started moving the ball. Their pace seemed to be conceding defeat, whether that was their intention or not.

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I think we are stuck with Sean and I don't think we'd be in any better shape without him.

Problem with this team started years ago and its taking some time to right the ship. We have been sticking a bandaide on the Titanic thinking that is going to fix it.

Instead of drafting Ingram when we did we should have been addressing the O line. Yes its nice to have horses but when you can't block for them they will look like crap.

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I agree. I'm going to hold out hope that the offense struggled because they didn't get many reps in the preseason. That's what I'm telling myself at least. Unfortunately the Oline did play and they weren't one iota better than preseason.

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I didn't get this one (Harris over Crawley) either. Sterling Moore should have seen the field a lot more than Devante'. He was exposed consistently in pre season .. we are playing zone inside the red zone. WTF? I'm no longer buying what Dennis Allen is selling.

And to think Jim Schwartz was available when they inked DA as DC.

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Moore was active. They just didn't use him. Vonn Bell either.

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Yes. Still scratching my head with that move.

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No one is discussing a mid-season letting go of SP. That would be silly. The issue with having optimism comes from the fact that this season and this game do not sit an isolation. There is a recent trend that provides enough supporting data to infer that it is likely not going to be a good season.

That said, I will be here each week through all 16 games just like I have since '04. Not meaning '04 with the Saints, meaning with this board. I hope this means nothing. I hope we come out and play like gang busters. I am just giving my honest opinion on what I believe will happen based off of the information I have.

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Oline and dline is where we should have been investing, we got whooped at both last night, no wonder we lost

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I don't believe in this team, coaches or GM. How many loosing seasons will it take before big changes happen?

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You got it. It all starts in the trenches. We've invested here and there but not nearly enough. No depth really on either side and watching what happened when Strief exited the game showed up quick.

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We are not a smart team

Our defensive players and coaches have been dumb for years.

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I'm not as ready to give up on the season as many of you appear to be. We faced one of the top defenses in the NFL and lost in their home stadium on an opening Monday night. The last I heard there were 16 games in the NFL season. Has something changed?

I'm going to be here (meaning where ever I am physically) each and every week expecting my Saints to win just as I have for the past 50 years. That's much more enjoyable than the alternatives. I'm disappointed when they lose, but I refuse to not enjoy when they are playing.

:bng:

P.S. The wife and myself are heading to Vegas for a few days so don't think I'm hiding out since we lost. I'll either be in the casinos or at a show. Losing doesn't affect me. Having to read through volumes of negative posts does, however. Life is far too short not to make the most out of it and enjoy.

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I understand your optimism and actually quite respect it, however (it may be my own doing) but I feel completely let down after the strong showing in preseason.

If we start 0-4 again, something has to be done about Payton, and I dont mean give him another extension.

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Post of the day. well said sir.:love:

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Ok so I'm hearing a rumor about the Sterling Moore/De'Vante Harris situation last night. On the Vikings first offensive play of the game we only had 10 men on the field and it was Sterling Moore who was supposed to be in there but had a brain fart I guess. Payton benched him the rest of the game.

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Too early for this thread

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I understand and respect your optimism and agree Minny has one of the top defenses and realize it was going to be a hard game for anyone to win going against them in their new stadium.
But do you really HAVE to sift through pages and pages of negative posts? Wouldn't it be easier to just ignore them and move along?

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That's like cutting off your nose to spite your face