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Someway the Saints must establish a running attack going forward.

Ingram, Peterson, Kamara etc ... there is no reason for us not to have a 90+ yard run game. Parcels always used to say that Payton was a bit too "pass happy". Run it down their collective throats ... even if it isn't working at first.

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It's so hard to tell with the way NFL broadcasts do their cameras. I honestly can't see anything 5 yards past the line of scrimmage unless the ball is thrown and the camera follows. Especially ESPN NFL broadcasts, they are like a QB peep show. So I can't tell when we are actually going deep, why our route concepts are not working against the Vikings D, and why our pass defense coverage is breaking down.

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It was working, the game was being managed and we all knew eventually that our offense would find a way.

What we didn't count on is the D having a random meltdown after they didn't play too badly to begin with.

Then Payton just confused himself, finally got an offensive drive going, only to settle for FG's.

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Watch this outstanding coverage by every Vikings defender and wish we had anything close to that

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New England hung in with a lead and then got stomped. We did nearly the same. NE is going win and we are going to lose even though we essentially played the same? Let's watch and see what happens. Maybe we win and move onto Carolina with momentum.

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This is why you go to the dome and sit in the Terrace End Zone seats--- BEST SEATS there are, if you want to see the actual game!

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Well maybe that's why they're outsiders. Lol

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Yeah, maybe. :)

They're pretty good. They came up with the DVOA system (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) that a lot of teams use in the offseason to figure out how bad a problem is.

Basically, when measuring how an offense performed, they don't value each defense the same. For example, if you threw for 300 yards against the Saints, it's not nearly as impressive as throwing for 300 against the Broncos, because just about everybody throws well against the Saints. They use what everybody else got passing against the Saints as the standard. So 250 against the Broncos defense might be better than 350 against the Saints defense.

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I know. I'm not throwing rocks. It's just that I watch this team. We watch this team. We are not a good running team and haven't been in a long time. Personally I don't think it's the fault of any of our backs really - I mean we miss Deuce, but Mark Ingram is a good back - there have been others, we just don't run well overall.

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Guess who won NFC Offensive Player on the week? Give up? Sam Bradford.

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Yep, when I go to high school games and sit at the 40, I may get to see less but I actually get to see more of what matters.

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WOW, one week and they want to get rid of coach already

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I couldn't help myself. Can't say he didn't deserve it.

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He deserved it, but he didn't earn it. I know that doesn't make any sense, but neither did Monday night's game.

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Like the article, already posted, stated- this is game 49, not game 1

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My feeling about the Pats is we will play balls to the wall and they will hit a last minute fg or td to win. Then some will talk about how good we are because we hung with the Pats.

BTW- I hope I am wrong and we stomp them proving week 1 was not who we are.

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Nailed it.

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I think Moore is one of the most underrated players we have. Not saying he's a huge baller, but he has his importance.

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Okay, Soooooo if you let Coach Payton go. Who takes his place?

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Nolan in the interim, and take a look at quality assistants around the league. Such as Sutton from the Chiefs or Jim Schwartz from the Eagles.

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Agree, Nolan or Dan Campbell wouldn't be bad choices either. Maybe also call Kubiak and see if he has any thoughts about returning to coaching.

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NO! He rode Wade's shoulders to anywhere he found success in the NFL.

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last week was week 1 and this was too early. we are 1/2 way through week 2, can we bring this out now?

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3rd quart second game down 30-13...still too early?

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Finally on the fire SP bandwagon. Dudes play calling is just dumb. Have a chance to go into the locker room down by 2 scores but passes on the fg. Down 17 late in the 3rd he decides to kick a 50 yard fg??????? Wth is he smoking?????

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And the come back begins.

Geaux Saints!!

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This game is bad. Very bad.

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33-13 4rth quarter game 2, still too early?

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More like 2 seasons too late. Fire SP as soon as the game is over

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Only thing I can hope for now is a Brady injury. Where is GW when you need him?

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Just bulldoze the whole shebang and start from scratch. Dumpster fire. New coach, new staff, new FO, new everything.

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0-2...still too early?

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Or you could just change teams to pull for. Just saying.

:bng:

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Eventually the pain of staying the same eclipses the pain of making a dramatic change, and you capitulate to change.

It's inevitable.

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Was I the only one that saw it? The first drive, we were driving and then what does he do? Run back to back run plays. Ingram looks like he picked up where he left off before last year's second half run with his runs on first downs. Today, AP was the better back. Still, this offense should have kept throwing. That's how a game gets out of hand when stupid moves like that happen.

Once SP is done with his press conference he can go have his golddigger make him a sandwich.