Payton need to go?

vpheughan · 09-24-2017, 10:55 AM

The local weather people must really be upset. I bet their "winning percentage" is higher than his!

saintshrimp · 09-24-2017, 10:40 PM

Still not impressed. So what they won. He needs to go

QBREES9 · 09-24-2017, 10:53 PM

I know its one game. They played well today, on to Jolly Old England. The Maimi Dolphins

WHODATINCA · 09-25-2017, 02:23 AM

This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow.

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2017, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow.

Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track.

jeanpierre · 09-27-2017, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track.

Exactly. While Loomis/Payton still needs some more organization checks and balances to limit the personnel gaffes and buffoonery, we're not having 0-3 strikeouts in the drafts as we've had before...

And the rush to re-sign Fairley and then to face the consequences within a few days of not doing due diligence really gave cause for them to put checks and balances to save them from themselves (Payton/Loomis)...

You can not not look at this team and say the recent changes in draft process and positional coach hirings are not signs we're turning the corner...

Let's get healthier and play a few more games and make a judgement at the end of the season...

hagan714 · 09-25-2017, 05:03 AM

The OL has final been addressed so wait till every one is healthy before throwing him under the bus.

neugey · 09-25-2017, 06:09 AM

What the team showed yesterday is perhaps we need to ride out the season and allow Payton to save his job. Maybe this was our wake up call, or it was Carolina not showing up. Not really sure. If we are 9-7 or better this year (it is a tough schedule) then that would be considerable progress.

Crusader · 09-27-2017, 04:51 AM

The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

jeanpierre · 09-27-2017, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

See the problem there also was this unilateral decision to, first, use them, and, second, it was rubber stamp when Payton wanted a player without any other organization input to vet a player out completely...

Expediting those vetting processes and giving one man to much autonomy leads to these premature contracts that can hamstring a team; now we need another DT and we missed out in FA because we'd committed to Fairley...

09-24-2017, 10:55 AM	#1
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,547	Re: Payton need to go? The local weather people must really be upset. I bet their "winning percentage" is higher than his!
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,547

09-24-2017, 10:40 PM	#2
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Payton need to go? Still not impressed. So what they won. He needs to go

09-24-2017, 10:53 PM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Payton need to go? I know its one game. They played well today, on to Jolly Old England. The Maimi Dolphins CharityMike likes this.

09-25-2017, 02:23 AM	#4
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Payton need to go? This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow.

09-25-2017, 07:25 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by WHODATINCA This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow. Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track.

09-27-2017, 03:48 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track. Exactly. While Loomis/Payton still needs some more organization checks and balances to limit the personnel gaffes and buffoonery, we're not having 0-3 strikeouts in the drafts as we've had before... And the rush to re-sign Fairley and then to face the consequences within a few days of not doing due diligence really gave cause for them to put checks and balances to save them from themselves (Payton/Loomis)... You can not not look at this team and say the recent changes in draft process and positional coach hirings are not signs we're turning the corner... Let's get healthier and play a few more games and make a judgement at the end of the season...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

09-25-2017, 05:03 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton need to go? The OL has final been addressed so wait till every one is healthy before throwing him under the bus.

09-25-2017, 06:09 AM	#8
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton need to go? What the team showed yesterday is perhaps we need to ride out the season and allow Payton to save his job. Maybe this was our wake up call, or it was Carolina not showing up. Not really sure. If we are 9-7 or better this year (it is a tough schedule) then that would be considerable progress.

09-27-2017, 04:51 AM	#9
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Payton need to go? The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

09-27-2017, 10:03 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by Crusader The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too. See the problem there also was this unilateral decision to, first, use them, and, second, it was rubber stamp when Payton wanted a player without any other organization input to vet a player out completely... Expediting those vetting processes and giving one man to much autonomy leads to these premature contracts that can hamstring a team; now we need another DT and we missed out in FA because we'd committed to Fairley...

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/84211-payton-need-go.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	09-11-2017 09:32 PM	3
Payton need to go?	This thread	Refback	09-11-2017 09:29 PM	2