Payton need to go?

Halo · 09-11-2017, 09:43 PM

Can't we utilize the roster spot that Adrian Peterson occupies for some more depth at Cornerback??

All due respect to AP, but paying him a salary and using a roster spot for him just so he can be a "decoy" rarely used in the offense seems like a waste of a roster spot.

neugey · 09-11-2017, 09:52 PM

As I said in the game thread, the game has passed Sean by. We haven't adapted to the 2010+ NFL, and it's already 2017.

Signing AP just to have him watch the game from the bench is like taking the prettiest girl at school to McDonald's on prom night. And if I am wondering in the 3rd quarter what Brees could do in an offense like the Vikings run ... yes, there's a problem.

ChrisXVI · 09-11-2017, 09:55 PM

On the plus side, Lattimore and Anzalone looked great! Ramczyk looked good too for a rookie LT making his first start.

neugey · 09-11-2017, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

On the plus side, Lattimore and Anzalone looked great! Ramczyk looked good too for a rookie LT making his first start.

Agree. Klein and Fleener were also bright spots.

halloween 65 · 09-11-2017, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Agree. Klein and Fleener were also bright spots.

I was impressed with Fleener tonight. Klein had to be all over the place, really no choice or the Vikes would have really racked up the yards. Oketre had a good game also.

blackangold · 09-11-2017, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I was impressed with Fleener tonight. Klein had to be all over the place, really no choice or the Vikes would have really racked up the yards. Oketre had a good game also.

Disagree on Okafor, he lost edge control on every long run and provided little pressure. Cook had 3 big runs on the edge, all occurred off his edge.

jeanpierre · 09-11-2017, 09:56 PM

Brees had that deer in the headlights look from the first snap...

Payton preached all off-season about balance, running the ball more...

He even signed Petersahn with other holes in the roster, especially O-line...

Abandoned the run game by the second series, playing to the strengths of the Vikings Pass Defense?

This is not smart Payton football...

From what I saw tonight, Minnesota will be hosting the NFC Championship Game...

And we just gave away Home-Field Advantage...

But, here's the problem I had/have with Payton tonight...

Payton's nature is to be aggressive - that's where he makes bread...

And to not go for the touchdown in the red zone on fourth down, not once, not twice, but three times?

Going contrary to his nature, that is what's bothering me right now...

And save this BS title thread for Week 12...

spkb25 · 09-11-2017, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Brees had that deer in the headlights look from the first snap...

Payton preached all off-season about balance, running the ball more...

He even signed Petersahn with other holes in the roster, especially O-line...

Abandoned the run game by the second series, playing to the strengths of the Vikings Pass Defense?

This is not smart Payton football...

From what I saw tonight, Minnesota will be hosting the NFC Championship Game...

And we just gave away Home-Field Advantage...

But, here's the problem I had/have with Payton tonight...

Payton's nature is to be aggressive - that's where he makes bread...

And to not go for the touchdown in the red zone on fourth down, not once, not twice, but three times?

Going contrary to his nature, that is what's bothering me right now...

And save this BS title thread for Week 12...

First, we're not going to the NFC championship game.

Second, the thread is appropriate because we are on our way to 7-9 for a fourth straight year. Is it possible we turn it all around and fix it, sure. Is it likely, no.

So I am going to bring out this appropriately titled thread week 1 after 3 straight 7-9 seasons and what looked like 7-9 vs.4

jeanpierre · 09-12-2017, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

First, we're not going to the NFC championship game.

Second, the thread is appropriate because we are on our way to 7-9 for a fourth straight year. Is it possible we turn it all around and fix it, sure. Is it likely, no.

So I am going to bring out this appropriately titled thread week 1 after 3 straight 7-9 seasons and what looked like 7-9 vs.4

Spike, criticisms of Payton's performance are fair, justified...

But this Bullshinski of the season being over after just one game, I would never want you are anyone that thinks like that the moment some adversity arises on my side in things...

If this is still happening in Week 4, mistakes aren't corrected, adjustments aren't made, then that's different...

And if Payton were cut loose now, I guarantee you that the 2017 Season would be done...

Tobias-Reiper · 09-12-2017, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If this is still happening in Week 4

We have heard the same song for 4 years now, although it started with Week 8 in 2014. Now we are down to Week 4. So progress in shortening the leash?

09-11-2017, 09:43 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Payton need to go? Can't we utilize the roster spot that Adrian Peterson occupies for some more depth at Cornerback?? All due respect to AP, but paying him a salary and using a roster spot for him just so he can be a "decoy" rarely used in the offense seems like a waste of a roster spot. jnormand, spkb25, RockyMountainSaint and 3 others like this.

09-11-2017, 09:52 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton need to go? As I said in the game thread, the game has passed Sean by. We haven't adapted to the 2010+ NFL, and it's already 2017. Signing AP just to have him watch the game from the bench is like taking the prettiest girl at school to McDonald's on prom night. And if I am wondering in the 3rd quarter what Brees could do in an offense like the Vikings run ... yes, there's a problem. Halo and RockyMountainSaint like this.

09-11-2017, 09:55 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Payton need to go? On the plus side, Lattimore and Anzalone looked great! Ramczyk looked good too for a rookie LT making his first start. Halo, jnormand, spkb25 and 3 others like this.

09-11-2017, 09:56 PM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI On the plus side, Lattimore and Anzalone looked great! Ramczyk looked good too for a rookie LT making his first start. Agree. Klein and Fleener were also bright spots. jnormand likes this.

09-11-2017, 10:07 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by neugey Agree. Klein and Fleener were also bright spots. I was impressed with Fleener tonight. Klein had to be all over the place, really no choice or the Vikes would have really racked up the yards. Oketre had a good game also.

09-11-2017, 10:10 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I was impressed with Fleener tonight. Klein had to be all over the place, really no choice or the Vikes would have really racked up the yards. Oketre had a good game also. Disagree on Okafor, he lost edge control on every long run and provided little pressure. Cook had 3 big runs on the edge, all occurred off his edge.

09-11-2017, 09:56 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Brees had that deer in the headlights look from the first snap... Payton preached all off-season about balance, running the ball more... He even signed Petersahn with other holes in the roster, especially O-line... Abandoned the run game by the second series, playing to the strengths of the Vikings Pass Defense? This is not smart Payton football... From what I saw tonight, Minnesota will be hosting the NFC Championship Game... And we just gave away Home-Field Advantage... But, here's the problem I had/have with Payton tonight... Payton's nature is to be aggressive - that's where he makes bread... And to not go for the touchdown in the red zone on fourth down, not once, not twice, but three times? Going contrary to his nature, that is what's bothering me right now... And save this BS title thread for Week 12... Halo, jnormand, neugey and 2 others like this.
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09-11-2017, 10:13 PM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Brees had that deer in the headlights look from the first snap... Payton preached all off-season about balance, running the ball more... He even signed Petersahn with other holes in the roster, especially O-line... Abandoned the run game by the second series, playing to the strengths of the Vikings Pass Defense? This is not smart Payton football... From what I saw tonight, Minnesota will be hosting the NFC Championship Game... And we just gave away Home-Field Advantage... But, here's the problem I had/have with Payton tonight... Payton's nature is to be aggressive - that's where he makes bread... And to not go for the touchdown in the red zone on fourth down, not once, not twice, but three times? Going contrary to his nature, that is what's bothering me right now... And save this BS title thread for Week 12... First, we're not going to the NFC championship game. Second, the thread is appropriate because we are on our way to 7-9 for a fourth straight year. Is it possible we turn it all around and fix it, sure. Is it likely, no. So I am going to bring out this appropriately titled thread week 1 after 3 straight 7-9 seasons and what looked like 7-9 vs.4

09-12-2017, 05:49 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by spkb25 First, we're not going to the NFC championship game. Second, the thread is appropriate because we are on our way to 7-9 for a fourth straight year. Is it possible we turn it all around and fix it, sure. Is it likely, no. So I am going to bring out this appropriately titled thread week 1 after 3 straight 7-9 seasons and what looked like 7-9 vs.4 Spike, criticisms of Payton's performance are fair, justified... But this Bullshinski of the season being over after just one game, I would never want you are anyone that thinks like that the moment some adversity arises on my side in things... If this is still happening in Week 4, mistakes aren't corrected, adjustments aren't made, then that's different... And if Payton were cut loose now, I guarantee you that the 2017 Season would be done... Rugby Saint II likes this.
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09-12-2017, 06:52 AM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by jeanpierre If this is still happening in Week 4 We have heard the same song for 4 years now, although it started with Week 8 in 2014. Now we are down to Week 4. So progress in shortening the leash?

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