Payton need to go?

papz · 09-11-2017, 09:24 PM

A couple of years overdue for me. I appreciate all Payton has done for us and that championship we won with him will be something we will never forget and be grateful for. But we've been mediocre for a while now and our ability to develop players, especially on defense, has been underwhelming. I've echoed this the past few season so trust me... it's not an overreaction to a loss. It's sad to say but I haven't been excited about Saints football in quite a while.

halloween 65 · 09-11-2017, 09:24 PM

If he goes I hope he takes Allen with him.

ikecomp · 09-11-2017, 09:25 PM

Not sure I'm there yet. But our offense is slowly starting to become toothless like our defense and that's not a good thing when your head coach's specialty is offense.

SaintsSB · 09-11-2017, 09:27 PM

So Sneed gets 3 games and Elliott beats his girlfriend and he's playing. Doesn't seem right.

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WHODATINCA · 09-11-2017, 09:29 PM

I never thought I'd say this...but yeah, this team needs new coaching. This isn't working.

AJ Klein is very good. Brees is wasted here.

WillSaints81 · 09-11-2017, 09:31 PM

Defense started out well, but sometimes you just cannot stop players who are coached to catch in traffic. That's our problem, we are facing teams who want to score points as much as us. When teams play us they want to score quick because of Brees. And lately it's like the defense is supposed to do it first.

Most likely the offense will show up against the pats but they always will in those kinds of games and against the easier defenses. They just cannot beat hard nosed defenses.

Defense was so bad after the 2014 offseason it is gonna take a while to fix it and if it's gonna take a while and the saints can't see the issues on offense in these instances it's gonna take Brees a while.

WillSaints81 · 09-11-2017, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsSB

So Sneed gets 3 games and Elliott beats his girlfriend and he's playing. Doesn't seem right.

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Because Elliot put up a fight against Goodell. Elliot is backed by the NFLPA and he filed an injunction. Snead just ain't that slick.

saintsfan1976 · 09-11-2017, 09:33 PM

Too many weaknesses on o line. Drew was ineffective against a top 5 defense. I’m unsettled by the CB play from PJ and Harris. Other than that we could have won.

ChrisXVI · 09-11-2017, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Defense started out well, but sometimes you just cannot stop players who are coached to catch in traffic. That's our problem, we are facing teams who want to score points as much as us. When teams play us they want to score quick because of Brees. And lately it's like the defense is supposed to do it first.

Most likely the offense will show up against the pats but they always will in those kinds of games and against the easier defenses. They just cannot beat hard nosed defenses.

Defense was so bad after the 2014 offseason it is gonna take a while to fix it and if it's gonna take a while and the saints can't see the issues on offense in these instances it's gonna take Brees a while.

My God. That was a... good post Will! Spot on my man!

RailBoss · 09-11-2017, 09:35 PM

Rumor has it that SP told Pete Carmichael when they get back to NO first stop is Home Depot to look for an O Lineman.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: Payton need to go? A couple of years overdue for me. I appreciate all Payton has done for us and that championship we won with him will be something we will never forget and be grateful for. But we've been mediocre for a while now and our ability to develop players, especially on defense, has been underwhelming. I've echoed this the past few season so trust me... it's not an overreaction to a loss. It's sad to say but I haven't been excited about Saints football in quite a while. Halo, spkb25, RockyMountainSaint and 5 others like this.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Payton need to go? Not sure I'm there yet. But our offense is slowly starting to become toothless like our defense and that's not a good thing when your head coach's specialty is offense. RockyMountainSaint and Rugby Saint II like this.
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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Payton need to go? I never thought I'd say this...but yeah, this team needs new coaching. This isn't working. AJ Klein is very good. Brees is wasted here. spkb25 and RockyMountainSaint like this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Payton need to go? Defense started out well, but sometimes you just cannot stop players who are coached to catch in traffic. That's our problem, we are facing teams who want to score points as much as us. When teams play us they want to score quick because of Brees. And lately it's like the defense is supposed to do it first. Most likely the offense will show up against the pats but they always will in those kinds of games and against the easier defenses. They just cannot beat hard nosed defenses. Defense was so bad after the 2014 offseason it is gonna take a while to fix it and if it's gonna take a while and the saints can't see the issues on offense in these instances it's gonna take Brees a while. neugey, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by SaintsSB So Sneed gets 3 games and Elliott beats his girlfriend and he's playing. Doesn't seem right. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Because Elliot put up a fight against Goodell. Elliot is backed by the NFLPA and he filed an injunction. Snead just ain't that slick.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,049 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Payton need to go? Too many weaknesses on o line. Drew was ineffective against a top 5 defense. I’m unsettled by the CB play from PJ and Harris. Other than that we could have won. Halo and RockyMountainSaint like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Defense started out well, but sometimes you just cannot stop players who are coached to catch in traffic. That's our problem, we are facing teams who want to score points as much as us. When teams play us they want to score quick because of Brees. And lately it's like the defense is supposed to do it first. Most likely the offense will show up against the pats but they always will in those kinds of games and against the easier defenses. They just cannot beat hard nosed defenses. Defense was so bad after the 2014 offseason it is gonna take a while to fix it and if it's gonna take a while and the saints can't see the issues on offense in these instances it's gonna take Brees a while. My God. That was a... good post Will! Spot on my man! neugey likes this.

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