What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

CharityMike · 09-11-2017, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

What I see what vikings did on offense is the receivers are coached to make tough catches and I saw Sam Bradford get a pass off with a pass rusher running straight at him in the second quarter. I Saw a lot of that before too with us. That has to do with physicality. Defensive oriented teams run offenses that play like that. I think the defense is tackling well it's just that you don't know where a QB is going to go. There was open instances in different areas in this game. One was open in a screen the saints did not even sniff out. One was open in one corner of the endzone. The vikings threw all kinds of looks. The only way to keep a defense fresh is keeping a game competitive. I don't think the pats receivers play like the way the vikings receivers did, but they have a QB named Brady.

Also, it was an emotional game because of Randy Moss. You're going to go in to that and score two FGs in the first three drives, you're eventually gonna get burned. That's not how you shut a home team up with playmakers.

I don't agree..we CHOSE to run a zone D instead of man to man. It was the game plan. maybe we thought we couldn't match up well one on one. But IMO, if we gonna get burnt, eff it, man coverage and get beat like a man. Every time we play zone it is a disaster. I don't know wtf happened between preseason and now but somebody over thought this.

I do agree with your last paragraph, that you can't keep putting up 3's when they scoring 7's. Loosing football.

saintshrimp · 09-11-2017, 11:07 PM

Everything they didnt do a dam thing right Imho

jnormand · 09-11-2017, 11:18 PM

Disappointed. Thought the offensive game plan was too weak in the first 3 quarters. Drew is gonna have to chuck it again this season to set up the run. Harris and PJ got owned. Brutal.

Idk how many tackles Klein had but he was everywhere.

Biggest issue offensively was 1 for 5 in the redzone. Lutz looks good but we need TDs.

I hope the Saints can get things going after this week. Tough game. Tough place to play. It's not getting easier next week. I hope they can rebound.

jnormand · 09-11-2017, 11:24 PM

Btw I think Peterson is gonna become a pain in the ass as the season progresses if he doesn't get enough touches. Just my two cents. Kamara is definitely going to be the future. Ingram is used to sharing touches. Peterson throwing fits on the sideline isn't professional and I don't like seeing it. It's annoying.

foreverfan · 09-11-2017, 11:31 PM

Saints score 4 touchdown instead of FGs and you wouldn't have a problem. The team looks a little too young on defense still and we do have some problems on the OL and WR.

We shall see what happens in the next 3 weeks.

spkb25 · 09-12-2017, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Saints score 4 touchdown instead of FGs and you wouldn't have a problem. The team looks a little too young on defense still and we do have some problems on the OL and WR.

We shall see what happens in the next 3 weeks.

I understand what you're saying, but we didn't ya know. Plus even still there would have been huge holes again on d. I am just not seeing the kind of improvement needed to be a successful team

dizzle88 · 09-12-2017, 04:04 AM

Was signing AP a mistake?

Ingram is our best back and he barely played.

Payton got way too complicated for himself.

dizzle88 · 09-12-2017, 05:40 AM

The most disappointing thing for me? I seriously bought into the hype from preseason, now I feel like a damn fool for expecting the Saints to actually be competitive.

The texans allowed 10 sacks to the Jags this Sunday, that explains why our D looked so good.
Offense didnt play enough in preseason, Brees does not seem comfortable with this receiving cast.
Ingram is our best back and I loved the AP signing, but it looked like he's really not a fit for us.
The DB's turned to look for the ball all preseason, then stopped doing that as soon as this game kicked off.

Seriously PJ Williams is just as bad as Harris is.

Now I feel like a fool because I've spent £150 to watch gamepass and over £300 on the tickets/trip to London for the dolphins game.

leilung · 09-12-2017, 05:51 AM

Bradford pretty much steered clear of throwing at Lattimore, which is a great indicator of his cover skills. The problem was that Zone D with P.J. and Harris in cover 1. It seemed like all Bradford did was locate them and call the deep route all night.

The secondary OFTEN looked as if they were confused with respect to coverage over-the-top and communication of assignments. How else do you explain Te'o covering Theilen on a crossing route? Thought all of that was presumably worked over in pre-season. LB's were solid, particularly against the run in the middle, but got owned late on the ends.

On offense, you get what you get when you have a QB that EVERYONE knows won't run for a few yards and move the sticks.

I'm stocking up on bourbon. If they can't right this ship fast, it's going to be a long painful season.

skymike · 09-12-2017, 06:03 AM

Third Down.
We Suck Again This Year.

09-11-2017, 11:08 PM	#1
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 What I see what vikings did on offense is the receivers are coached to make tough catches and I saw Sam Bradford get a pass off with a pass rusher running straight at him in the second quarter. I Saw a lot of that before too with us. That has to do with physicality. Defensive oriented teams run offenses that play like that. I think the defense is tackling well it's just that you don't know where a QB is going to go. There was open instances in different areas in this game. One was open in a screen the saints did not even sniff out. One was open in one corner of the endzone. The vikings threw all kinds of looks. The only way to keep a defense fresh is keeping a game competitive. I don't think the pats receivers play like the way the vikings receivers did, but they have a QB named Brady. Also, it was an emotional game because of Randy Moss. You're going to go in to that and score two FGs in the first three drives, you're eventually gonna get burned. That's not how you shut a home team up with playmakers. I don't agree..we CHOSE to run a zone D instead of man to man. It was the game plan. maybe we thought we couldn't match up well one on one. But IMO, if we gonna get burnt, eff it, man coverage and get beat like a man. Every time we play zone it is a disaster. I don't know wtf happened between preseason and now but somebody over thought this. I do agree with your last paragraph, that you can't keep putting up 3's when they scoring 7's. Loosing football. SmashMouth and Utah_Saint like this.

09-11-2017, 11:07 PM	#2
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Everything they didnt do a dam thing right Imho

09-11-2017, 11:18 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,757	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Disappointed. Thought the offensive game plan was too weak in the first 3 quarters. Drew is gonna have to chuck it again this season to set up the run. Harris and PJ got owned. Brutal. Idk how many tackles Klein had but he was everywhere. Biggest issue offensively was 1 for 5 in the redzone. Lutz looks good but we need TDs. I hope the Saints can get things going after this week. Tough game. Tough place to play. It's not getting easier next week. I hope they can rebound. CharityMike likes this.

09-11-2017, 11:24 PM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,757	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Btw I think Peterson is gonna become a pain in the ass as the season progresses if he doesn't get enough touches. Just my two cents. Kamara is definitely going to be the future. Ingram is used to sharing touches. Peterson throwing fits on the sideline isn't professional and I don't like seeing it. It's annoying. skymike, Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

09-11-2017, 11:31 PM	#5
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Saints score 4 touchdown instead of FGs and you wouldn't have a problem. The team looks a little too young on defense still and we do have some problems on the OL and WR. We shall see what happens in the next 3 weeks. jnormand, SaintFanQ and SmashMouth like this.

09-12-2017, 05:29 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by foreverfan Saints score 4 touchdown instead of FGs and you wouldn't have a problem. The team looks a little too young on defense still and we do have some problems on the OL and WR. We shall see what happens in the next 3 weeks. I understand what you're saying, but we didn't ya know. Plus even still there would have been huge holes again on d. I am just not seeing the kind of improvement needed to be a successful team

09-12-2017, 04:04 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Was signing AP a mistake? Ingram is our best back and he barely played. Payton got way too complicated for himself.

09-12-2017, 05:40 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? The most disappointing thing for me? I seriously bought into the hype from preseason, now I feel like a damn fool for expecting the Saints to actually be competitive. The texans allowed 10 sacks to the Jags this Sunday, that explains why our D looked so good. Offense didnt play enough in preseason, Brees does not seem comfortable with this receiving cast. Ingram is our best back and I loved the AP signing, but it looked like he's really not a fit for us. The DB's turned to look for the ball all preseason, then stopped doing that as soon as this game kicked off. Seriously PJ Williams is just as bad as Harris is. Now I feel like a fool because I've spent £150 to watch gamepass and over £300 on the tickets/trip to London for the dolphins game. turbo_dog and skymike like this.
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09-12-2017, 05:51 AM	#9
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,422	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Bradford pretty much steered clear of throwing at Lattimore, which is a great indicator of his cover skills. The problem was that Zone D with P.J. and Harris in cover 1. It seemed like all Bradford did was locate them and call the deep route all night. The secondary OFTEN looked as if they were confused with respect to coverage over-the-top and communication of assignments. How else do you explain Te'o covering Theilen on a crossing route? Thought all of that was presumably worked over in pre-season. LB's were solid, particularly against the run in the middle, but got owned late on the ends. On offense, you get what you get when you have a QB that EVERYONE knows won't run for a few yards and move the sticks. I'm stocking up on bourbon. If they can't right this ship fast, it's going to be a long painful season.
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09-12-2017, 06:03 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Third Down. We Suck Again This Year.

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