What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings?

vpheughan · 09-12-2017, 07:53 AM

Worst part: "We may have lost the game but you'll be feeling pretty good tomorrow"

Cruize · 09-12-2017, 08:03 AM

Same 'ol Saints, different day. No pass rush. Bad coverage. Giving up big plays. Poor clock management. Forcing the ball to one player (Kamara). Ridiculous sub patterns on offense. Ingram can run, catch and block. He needs to be on the field until he raises his hand. Too much zone. Attack on defense. Try to win instead of trying not to lose.

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2017, 08:14 AM

I was disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness on offense. Yes, losing Strief had a lot to do with that. The defense didn't play with the same intensity that they showed in the preseason. That can be addressed. We need Armstead back soon.

Looks like I have to adjust my projected record to 15-1.

halloween 65 · 09-12-2017, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I was disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness on offense. Yes, losing Strief had a lot to do with that. The defense didn't play with the same intensity that they showed in the preseason. That can be addressed. We need Armstead back soon.

Looks like I have to adjust my projected record to 15-1.

Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8

AsylumGuido · 09-12-2017, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8

Nope. I never stop believing, my friend. I leave that to others.

K Major · 09-12-2017, 09:15 AM

I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down.

And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome.

dizzle88 · 09-12-2017, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down.

And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome.

I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball.

K Major · 09-12-2017, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball.

He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.

Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.

dizzle88 · 09-12-2017, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.

Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.

Very good point about DA and Harris.

I don't understand why Harris was even out there, after Harris got beat the 50th time they should have put Lattimore against Diggs and see what he could do.

The thing that is most disappointing is we all bought into the hype and they've made me feel foolish.

I've completely lost faith in Payton, DA only has a job because they are buddies, Payton essentially wants a "yes man" and DA will never argue with him.

CharityMike · 09-12-2017, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie.

I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays.

Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday.

Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week.

I made the exact comment to fam about not seeing any stunts. We didn't do it once from what I saw. We had better play calling in the preseason ffs. Real game comes and its as vanilla as can be?? WTF. Once you see they keep smoking us at ease, it's time to change. Bring pressure..why is this so hard to do.

Obviously, they thought we could get through there O line with just the front four. But when it is not working, you have to adjust. Where was the adjustment?? DA did a pretty good job with that last year. This loss is just as much if not more on the coaching staff and there game plan.

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09-12-2017, 08:14 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? I was disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness on offense. Yes, losing Strief had a lot to do with that. The defense didn't play with the same intensity that they showed in the preseason. That can be addressed. We need Armstead back soon. Looks like I have to adjust my projected record to 15-1. jeanpierre, jlouhill, ChrisXVI and 1 others like this.

09-12-2017, 08:39 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I was disappointed by the lack of aggressiveness on offense. Yes, losing Strief had a lot to do with that. The defense didn't play with the same intensity that they showed in the preseason. That can be addressed. We need Armstead back soon. Looks like I have to adjust my projected record to 15-1. Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8

09-12-2017, 09:02 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Better get use to adjusting your projected record. 8-8 Nope. I never stop believing, my friend. I leave that to others. jeanpierre likes this.

09-12-2017, 09:15 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down. And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome. jeanpierre likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by K Major I hate to beat a dead horse but we must find a way to create turnovers. Strips, punching the ball out, INT's & getting off the field on 3rd down. And I agree with the play of Anzalone, Lattimore & Tommy. He created separation from the defender on that bomb but Brees slightly over threw him, otherwise 6. Malcolm Butler can be had in the dome. I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball. K Major likes this.

09-12-2017, 09:28 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by dizzle88 I just don't understand how PJ got beat so badly, that crossing route all he had to do was turn and look for the ball. He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie. I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays. Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday. Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week. Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

09-12-2017, 09:34 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by K Major He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie. I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays. Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday. Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week. Very good point about DA and Harris. I don't understand why Harris was even out there, after Harris got beat the 50th time they should have put Lattimore against Diggs and see what he could do. The thing that is most disappointing is we all bought into the hype and they've made me feel foolish. I've completely lost faith in Payton, DA only has a job because they are buddies, Payton essentially wants a "yes man" and DA will never argue with him.

09-12-2017, 01:09 PM	#10
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: What's most dissappointing after the loss to the Vikings? Originally Posted by K Major He did look tentative/hesitant but essentially PJ is a rookie. I'm more disappointed in Dennis Allen's game approach more than anything. Pre season we saw a lot of stunts, blitzing & guys moving like their head was on fire. Our secondary made Thielan (mostly 3rd down conversions) look like Odell on crossing routes. I mean he was WIDE open on several plays. Explain to me why you have Harris vs Diggs on those boundaries?? I just think we were out coached on defense. No way Harris should be on the field this Sunday. Time to re group (see sig/Roman Harper quote), film study and prepare to defeat NE in the dome on a short week. I made the exact comment to fam about not seeing any stunts. We didn't do it once from what I saw. We had better play calling in the preseason ffs. Real game comes and its as vanilla as can be?? WTF. Once you see they keep smoking us at ease, it's time to change. Bring pressure..why is this so hard to do. Obviously, they thought we could get through there O line with just the front four. But when it is not working, you have to adjust. Where was the adjustment?? DA did a pretty good job with that last year. This loss is just as much if not more on the coaching staff and there game plan. nola_swammi likes this.

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