We HAVEN\"T made major changes at any point.

And I don\'t care who else we drafted, the Sully pick was such a HUGE gaffe it should never be ignored again. We weren\'t at number six originally, we traded TWO FIRST ROUNDERS to move up and select our bust, about 20 something spots before he was projected. I also think this was a bigger bust pick than Ryan Leaf. I am at a loss still at the magnitude of a choice that poor. It\'s mind-boggling. That\'s worse than trading two drafts for Ricky, cause at least Ricky got us two number one picks back. Sullivan has gotten us nothing but ridicule. So while this guy obviously exaggerates and skews facts, the basic premisse of what he is saying has merit.

Is there any team in the league that needs to blow things up and start over more than the Saints?

which is what I agree with. When we were 4-8 last year, I prayed we would be 4-12. No more Haslett, very high draft pick, huge changes. No dice, we came back to even steven, as normal.

Hold up dude. Just cause someone disagrees with you, no need to question intelligence.

Second, what are these big changes you are harping about from 2002. I must have been asleep that year. What were they?

Number 3, where did he say the roster was hacks? I don\'t recall reading that. I recall reading him saying we needed major change, which we do. Do you disagree with that? When he talks about starting over, it could mean coaches, it could mean GM, it could mean players. You automatically took it to mean players, and more specifically AB.

I had a great post but it got lost so I\'ll kinda sum it all up.

whodi....I didn\'t think I was the only Saints fan that could take the gold-colored glasses off and see what the rest of the country sees. I was going to make the point about what Danno said about the \"hacks\" on our team. Look....I don\'t think that anyone doubts the talent level of Deuce, Will Smith, McKenzie and so forth. But why talk about what we are doing right when we\'ve done so much wrong for so long now? So many Saints fans think that the media owes it to us to praise our star players like they praise the star players for Philly and New England. However, no one cares how they perform when the team is freakin 8-8. What does it matter??? No one has to say nice things about our team, and I don\'t expect it.

which is what I agree with. When we were 4-8 last year, I prayed we would be 4-12. No more Haslett, very high draft pick, huge changes. No dice, we came back to even steven, as normal.

during those last four games-i was at my grandparents and my grandfather and I were watching the games and he says to me: because fo this the saints will bring back haslett and brooks...

now-I\'m not sure haslet is an awful coach-to be honest some of the talent has been so bad it\'s hard to tell. Brooks on the other hand has proven he needs to be benched, atleast..and shown that he can\'t do as he pleases and not be held acountable...for that I fault the coaching staff--doing the same thing each time and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. so, that said-I do fault our coaching staff for not developing players.

But the real problem in New Orleans si TOm Benson. as long as he is owner-we will be mediocre..just good enough to draw fans, and give us hope..but the bottom line will allways rule.

look at atlanta--when they finally got an owner who cared about football..they started to be aggressive in aquisitions. THey also blew up the team so they could get in a position to get Vick-which has lead to more money--now will vick be the savior--not until he learns to play football and use his teammates..which may not happen, but it has a chance..and right now they rule the division and are a force to be reckoned with.

let\'s be very honest-aaron brooks is not as talented as micheal vick, steve mcnair,Brett farve, donovan Mcnabb, peyton Manning or even drew bledsoe or Tom Brady....he is a third teir qb.

McCalister was a good pick up-the problem their was they knew he was injury prone, but didn\'t provide for a backup for him of any quality.

OUr line: we keep getting retreads-and that isn\'t working..Moving bentley was a stupid stupid move, and we should have gone strong after the kid from miss. state--can\'t remember his name...but he signed with seatle. My only hope here is that in the later rounds we will move to get Adam Terry and Wesly Britt (brown and baron will be gone, and barnes is a major project).

ON defense: Drafting smith was a brilliant move-esp. if we can turn Howard into a linebacker/cornerback and picks...

SUllivan was a stupid move...everyone knew it then and knows it now...we could have had him/or better with our picks and gotten a primo Cornerback that could/ve kept us from having to get MM..and even if we had gotten him-we\'d be more the better.

now: smith was a good signing, letting ambrose and t-bucky go were goo moves-esp. ambrose who is just taking up space.

Linebackers- Allen and colby are special teams/backups..watson is the only guy who we have that should be starting. We could have won more though if the coaching staff had held the players accountable.


that is the biggest problem-accountability, work ethic and proffessionalism....until we have that we won\'t have a playoff caliber team..regardless of whos at QB/RB/TE/kicker/etc.

quote:We HAVEN\"T made major changes at any point.

See 2002.