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AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 765123)
Asylum,

They can only dominate who is on the schedule. Carolina front 7 is good.
Not saying they aren't, but I doubt they'll be as effective against the Saints.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 765127)
And then London.
Same place that Miami has to play. It may be more disruptive to Miami than the Saints.

QBREES9 09-19-2017 01:00 PM
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After this weekend will 1-2 and singing a diffrent tune. Stay positive.

WHODATINCA 09-19-2017 01:18 PM
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I always have hope. But, this thread DID NOT HELP.

CharityMike 09-19-2017 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA (Post 765159)
I always have hope. But, this thread DID NOT HELP.
Hey, I tried to make it a positive thread. Came up with a decent plan of attack. But feelings are still raw. I get it. Everyone is entitled to there opinion.

dizzle88 09-19-2017 03:03 PM
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Check out the attached screenshot....it's not good.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 765184)
Check out the attached screenshot....it's not good.
And that means what? They faced two of the weaker teams in the league and we faced two of the better teams in the league.

dizzle88 09-19-2017 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765192)
And that means what? They faced two of the weaker teams in the league and we faced two of the better teams in the league.
You can't seriously think it's normal to allow over 1000 yards in two games and 65 points, no matter who you play that is historically bad!

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 765195)
You can't seriously think it's normal to allow over 1000 yards in two games and 65 points, no matter who you play that is historically bad!
No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet.

spkb25 09-19-2017 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765192)
And that means what? They faced two of the weaker teams in the league and we faced two of the better teams in the league.
when did Minny, who did not even make the playoffs last year, get anointed to one of the better teams in the league? If we cannot play with the good teams how can we be considered a good team? And if I go with your idea that we played two of the better teams in the league and they played two of the worst, and we got destroyed by those two teams wouldn't that make us one of the bad teams in the league? What does that mean for us verse the Panties?

saintfan 09-19-2017 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765200)
No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet.
I want to support this, and because I'm optimistic by nature I'm climbing on board this wagon with you, but it's a bumpy road and I hope I don't fall off...

dizzle88 09-19-2017 04:49 PM
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Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie.

K Major 09-19-2017 04:55 PM
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The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016.
The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense.

IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses.

Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday.

spkb25 09-19-2017 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765200)
No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet.
It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you.

Maybe that all changes.

spkb25 09-19-2017 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 765213)
The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016.
The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense.

IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses.

Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday.
could you imagine if their best wide out had played. holy smokes

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765208)
when did Minny, who did not even make the playoffs last year, get anointed to one of the better teams in the league? If we cannot play with the good teams how can we be considered a good team? And if I go with your idea that we played two of the better teams in the league and they played two of the worst, and we got destroyed by those two teams wouldn't that make us one of the bad teams in the league? What does that mean for us verse the Panties?
Sorry, but your logic is faulty. Read back through and you'll catch where you went wrong. At least I hope you do.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 765211)
Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie.
Fine. You give up and wallow in self pity. I'm going into this coming weekend excited and ready for a great run!

:bng:

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765214)
It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you.

Maybe that all changes.
So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win.

I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed.

I love you, Spike!

:bng:

jeanpierre 09-19-2017 05:50 PM
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I'll say this about the defense. -not so much as an excuse, but something to factor in all the minutiae of the miserable start...

We've got Delvin Breaux, Trey Hendrickson, Stephone Anthony, Ken Crawley out and are starting two rookies in Anzalone and Williams...

I like where we are now compared to the past three seasons at this time...

spkb25 09-19-2017 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765219)
So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win.

I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed.

I love you, Spike!

:bng:
Thank you for posting what you think of me vs what the Saints have done, etc. or the fact that they have let up 1000 yards

spkb25 09-19-2017 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765216)
Sorry, but your logic is faulty. Read back through and you'll catch where you went wrong. At least I hope you do.
Thanks for a post that really didn't discuss anything at all. If you care to talk Saints on a Saints board let us know

spkb25 09-19-2017 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765217)
Fine. You give up and wallow in self pity. I'm going into this coming weekend excited and ready for a great run!

:bng:
He made some valid points do you care to discuss the Saints or just call names to people?

WillSaints81 09-19-2017 07:30 PM
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For some reason, this feels like a win. Carolina is looking sluggish right now and the saints do play better defense there than at home against them. If the offense shows up, or stays competitive(which needs to happen), we can win this.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765247)
Thank you for posting what you think of me vs what the Saints have done, etc. or the fact that they have let up 1000 yards
You do more than enough on expounding upon what the Saints have done ... ad nauseam.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 08:05 PM
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Thanks for a post that really didn't discuss anything at all. If you care to talk Saints on a Saints board let us know
:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765249)
He made some valid points do you care to discuss the Saints or just call names to people?
Please point out exactly what name I called someone.

:confused:

Why so sensitive?

spkb25 09-19-2017 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 765282)
For some reason, this feels like a win. Carolina is looking sluggish right now and the saints do play better defense there than at home against them. If the offense shows up, or stays competitive(which needs to happen), we can win this.
Hope so, tired of losing

AsylumGuido 09-19-2017 08:19 PM
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Hope so, tired of losing
Me too. How about a little positive vibe? It couldn't hurt, right?

voodooido 09-19-2017 11:02 PM
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If Mccoy and Hyde could only combine for 55 yards rushing, what chance do we have? Those are teams built to run the ball and couldn't. Run the ball 2 quarters will be a recipe for failure IMO.


McCoy and Hyde have no passing game for the defense to respect.

CharityMike 09-20-2017 12:05 AM
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McCoy and Hyde have no passing game for the defense to respect.
Ok..I will give you that one. But, does it seem the first 2 teams we played were scared of anything we were going to do? Didn't appear so to me.

spkb25 09-20-2017 04:43 AM
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Me too. How about a little positive vibe? It couldn't hurt, right?
Im not trying to be positive or negative. That is never my focus. Im just being honest about what I see. That is my goal, nothing else. The rest is in your own head.

AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765333)
Im not trying to be positive or negative. That is never my focus. Im just being honest about what I see. That is my goal, nothing else. The rest is in your own head.
I see fourteen games left on the schedule with perhaps the toughest two behind us. I see getting Snead, Armstead and Strief back after the fourth game. Do I wish we could have drawn the cupcakes that Carolina and Atlanta drew the first two weeks of the season? Yes, but we didn't. But I see a more favorable schedule the remainder of the season.

Utah_Saint 09-20-2017 10:26 AM
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I see fourteen games left on the schedule with perhaps the toughest two behind us. I see getting Snead, Armstead and Strief back after the fourth game. Do I wish we could have drawn the cupcakes that Carolina and Atlanta drew the first two weeks of the season? Yes, but we didn't. But I see a more favorable schedule the remainder of the season.
I can be as big a cheerleader as the next guy but I don't think I'd call Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau a "cupcake".

AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 11:33 AM
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I can be as big a cheerleader as the next guy but I don't think I'd call Aaron Rodgers in Lambeau a "cupcake".
Ok, that game not quite a cupcake, but it wasn't in Lambeau. It was the first game in Atlanta's new stadium.

Utah_Saint 09-20-2017 01:05 PM
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Ok, that game not quite a cupcake, but it wasn't in Lambeau. It was the first game in Atlanta's new stadium.
Oh yeah, you're right, my mistake. But the point still stands. Green Bay is hardly a cupcake.

Rugby Saint II 09-20-2017 01:23 PM
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Buh bye...........

spkb25 09-20-2017 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765363)
I see fourteen games left on the schedule with perhaps the toughest two behind us. I see getting Snead, Armstead and Strief back after the fourth game. Do I wish we could have drawn the cupcakes that Carolina and Atlanta drew the first two weeks of the season? Yes, but we didn't. But I see a more favorable schedule the remainder of the season.
Sure ,if we had been remotely competitive

WhoDat!656 09-20-2017 07:52 PM
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jeanpierre 09-20-2017 07:55 PM
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Well, without further adieu, you're injured Saints going into the Panther's den...

...brought to you by Ochsner Sports Medicine Institue - the people that keep Delvin Breaux and other Saints healthy and ready to play...

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T Terron Armstead (shoulder)
T Zach Strief (knee)
CB Sterling Moore (chest)
CB Marshon Lattimore (concussion)

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DE Trey Hendrickson (knee)

The Dude 09-20-2017 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 765025)
I think we should pound the run for the first 2 quarters then after halftime mix with more passing. This way we'll control the clock. Our kicker is better than theirs. They could only score 3 field goals against Buffalo? wow
I def think Payton should commit more to the run now more than ever. We have talent and depth there. It will take pressure off Brees. They haven't even had a chance to get a rhythm. Yes it will be hard to run behind our line but we have the backs to do it. Might as well feed it to AP until his knees blow out.


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