Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'

K Major · 09-20-2017, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.

Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ?

My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1).

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ?

My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1).

Actually, Kamara has 92 yards from scrimmage. He has 71 receiving.

And, yes, he should be a threat, but how well Newton can utilize him is questionable. He is basically the worst passing QB in the league. But, he is also the best RB playing QB in the league. But, teams have learned that and punish the crap out of him.

My concern isn't as great about the kid because of who he has distributing the ball.

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.

Guido, how long have you been a Saints' fan?

Don't jinx it! That's usually when a rookie has his here I am party...

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AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Guido, how long have you been a Saints' fan?

Don't jinx it! That's usually when a rookie has his here I am party...

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I know, but I won't stop believin'.

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hagan714 · 09-21-2017, 04:46 AM

he is great in the Box. He needs to get paid like a third safety. Need a true modern day SS to complement him and Williams

Supertek · 09-21-2017, 01:19 PM

I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

Exactly. Fans are too quick to advocate throwing away players regardless of consequences, yet are also quick to condemn dead cap created by throwing away players.

ChrisXVI · 09-21-2017, 05:42 PM

Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well.

Danno · 09-21-2017, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well.

I have never been impressed with Vaccaro. He couldn't hold a young Roman Harper's jock.

In fact, I think Roman Harper at 34 years old would outplay him right now, which isn't saying much.

09-20-2017, 03:03 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far. Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ? My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1). hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2017, 03:14 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by K Major Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ? My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1). Actually, Kamara has 92 yards from scrimmage. He has 71 receiving. And, yes, he should be a threat, but how well Newton can utilize him is questionable. He is basically the worst passing QB in the league. But, he is also the best RB playing QB in the league. But, teams have learned that and punish the crap out of him. My concern isn't as great about the kid because of who he has distributing the ball. hagan714 likes this.

09-21-2017, 04:46 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' he is great in the Box. He needs to get paid like a third safety. Need a true modern day SS to complement him and Williams

09-21-2017, 01:19 PM	#6
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

09-21-2017, 05:15 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by Supertek I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn. Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

09-21-2017, 05:30 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement? Exactly. Fans are too quick to advocate throwing away players regardless of consequences, yet are also quick to condemn dead cap created by throwing away players.

09-21-2017, 05:42 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well. Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well. I have never been impressed with Vaccaro. He couldn't hold a young Roman Harper's jock. In fact, I think Roman Harper at 34 years old would outplay him right now, which isn't saying much.

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