Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

Exactly. Fans are too quick to advocate throwing away players regardless of consequences, yet are also quick to condemn dead cap created by throwing away players.

ChrisXVI · 09-21-2017, 05:42 PM

Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well.

Danno · 09-21-2017, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well.

I have never been impressed with Vaccaro. He couldn't hold a young Roman Harper's jock.

In fact, I think Roman Harper at 34 years old would outplay him right now, which isn't saying much.

hagan714 · 09-22-2017, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

Draft gamble looks solid my favs are
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr
Quin Blanding SS/FS Virginia 6011 205 4.58 #3 Jr
Marcus Allen SS/FS Penn State 6012 202 4.55 #2 Sr
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198

FA?
What is left in the tank? nice seasoned vet
Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB Green Bay ?

Can he handle the switch to SS in SF this year?
Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransico ?

My #1 FA target right now is
Chris Smith DE CIN 6010 266 4.71

#2
Telvin Smith WLB Jaguars 4yr/$28 million
Jarvis Landry WR Miami

#3
Kyle Fuller CB Chicago
Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars
Dontae Johnson
CIN 25 2017: $690,000

K Major · 09-22-2017, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

FA?

Can he handle the switch to SS in SF this year?
Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransico ?

He was still on the board when we picked Kenny

. Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level.

AsylumGuido · 09-22-2017, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

He was still on the board when we picked Kenny . Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level.

Maybe if he could stay on the field. Reid is going to miss the next several weeks with a PCL injury.

Utah_Saint · 09-22-2017, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Maybe if he could stay on the field. Reid is going to miss the next several weeks with a PCL injury.

Reid's played in 59 games. Vaccaro's played in 58. So his ability to stay on the field has been no worse than Vaccaro's.

hagan714 · 09-22-2017, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

He was still on the board when we picked Kenny . Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level.

yep pick 18 round 1

Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. is my round 4 steal so far

09-21-2017, 06:19 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well. I have never been impressed with Vaccaro. He couldn't hold a young Roman Harper's jock. In fact, I think Roman Harper at 34 years old would outplay him right now, which isn't saying much.

09-22-2017, 04:47 AM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement? Draft gamble looks solid my favs are Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr Quin Blanding SS/FS Virginia 6011 205 4.58 #3 Jr Marcus Allen SS/FS Penn State 6012 202 4.55 #2 Sr Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198 FA? What is left in the tank? nice seasoned vet Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB Green Bay ? Can he handle the switch to SS in SF this year? Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransico ? My #1 FA target right now is Chris Smith DE CIN 6010 266 4.71 #2 Telvin Smith WLB Jaguars 4yr/$28 million Jarvis Landry WR Miami #3 Kyle Fuller CB Chicago Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars Dontae Johnson CIN 25 2017: $690,000
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09-22-2017, 07:58 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by hagan714 FA? Can he handle the switch to SS in SF this year? Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransico ? He was still on the board when we picked Kenny . Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level.

09-22-2017, 08:07 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by K Major He was still on the board when we picked Kenny . Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level. Maybe if he could stay on the field. Reid is going to miss the next several weeks with a PCL injury.

09-22-2017, 01:19 PM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by K Major He was still on the board when we picked Kenny . Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level. yep pick 18 round 1 Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. is my round 4 steal so far K Major likes this.

09-21-2017, 05:15 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by Supertek I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn. Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

09-21-2017, 05:30 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement? Exactly. Fans are too quick to advocate throwing away players regardless of consequences, yet are also quick to condemn dead cap created by throwing away players.

09-21-2017, 05:42 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well. Danno likes this.

09-22-2017, 01:51 PM	#8
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Maybe if he could stay on the field. Reid is going to miss the next several weeks with a PCL injury. Reid's played in 59 games. Vaccaro's played in 58. So his ability to stay on the field has been no worse than Vaccaro's. K Major likes this.

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