Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning

LKelley67 · 04-08-2005, 11:39 AM

...I just wanted to stir the pot ...

or a waste of time with no meaningful discourse

GumboBC · 04-08-2005, 03:15 PM

...I just wanted to stir the pot ...

or a waste of time with no meaningful discourse

How \'bout I write a post on the past 37-year history of the Saints and dwell on all of the negatives?

Oh, yeah ... I forgot ... you do that on a daily basis.

No need for me to do it.

WhoDat · 04-08-2005, 03:45 PM

I have a challenge for you Billy.

Without belittling other Saints players - show me why AB is a good QB. Can you do that?

GumboBC · 04-08-2005, 04:16 PM

I have a challenge for you Billy.

Without belittling other Saints players - show me why AB is a good QB. Can you do that?

1. Brooks won the only playoff game in club history.
2. Our offense was the 2nd highest scoring in the NFC in 2002.
3. 24TDs/8Ints in 2003.

WhoDat · 04-08-2005, 04:37 PM

1. TEAM STAT
2. TEAM STAT

Both of those are irrelevant b/c they relate to the team, not Brooks. Remember - you\'re the guy who says that QBs don\'t individually deserve credit or blame for those types of things.

3. Yep - that was a good year throwing the ball. He also finished 8th in QB rating that year. Pretty darn respectible. Here are a few more stats related to that:

2003 - AB led the league in fumbles lost - that kind of undermines the low INT rate, don\'t you think?

Aside from his 8th place finish in 2003 in QB rating, he has finished 20th, 20th, and 19th. So does one \"good\" year in four make up for the three other \"below average\" years?

[Edited on 8/4/2005 by WhoDat]

LKelley67 · 04-09-2005, 01:11 AM

c\'mon whodat why do you have to look at four years starting. 2003 alone was the true indicator. the other years there were bad receivers or bad line or bad play calling, etc. and you don\'t call averaging 17th is passer rating out of a 32 team league elite? you\'re looking at the wrong stats buddy.

04-08-2005, 11:39 AM	#31
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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning ...I just wanted to stir the pot ... or a waste of time with no meaningful discourse How \'bout I write a post on the past 37-year history of the Saints and dwell on all of the negatives? Oh, yeah ... I forgot ... you do that on a daily basis. No need for me to do it.
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04-08-2005, 03:45 PM	#33
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning I have a challenge for you Billy. Without belittling other Saints players - show me why AB is a good QB. Can you do that?
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04-08-2005, 04:16 PM	#34
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning I have a challenge for you Billy. Without belittling other Saints players - show me why AB is a good QB. Can you do that? 1. Brooks won the only playoff game in club history. 2. Our offense was the 2nd highest scoring in the NFC in 2002. 3. 24TDs/8Ints in 2003.
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04-08-2005, 04:37 PM	#35
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning 1. TEAM STAT 2. TEAM STAT Both of those are irrelevant b/c they relate to the team, not Brooks. Remember - you\'re the guy who says that QBs don\'t individually deserve credit or blame for those types of things. 3. Yep - that was a good year throwing the ball. He also finished 8th in QB rating that year. Pretty darn respectible. Here are a few more stats related to that: 2003 - AB led the league in fumbles lost - that kind of undermines the low INT rate, don\'t you think? Aside from his 8th place finish in 2003 in QB rating, he has finished 20th, 20th, and 19th. So does one \"good\" year in four make up for the three other \"below average\" years? [Edited on 8/4/2005 by WhoDat]
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04-09-2005, 01:11 AM	#36
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Kurt Warner vs. Peyton Manning c\'mon whodat why do you have to look at four years starting. 2003 alone was the true indicator. the other years there were bad receivers or bad line or bad play calling, etc. and you don\'t call averaging 17th is passer rating out of a 32 team league elite? you\'re looking at the wrong stats buddy.