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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 I am not liking the OSU DEs as first round pick so far. Seriously? Hagan, this year he's getting pinched, trap-blocked on the end cause teams are aware of him... I'd love to have him opposite ...
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last year he did not get it done either when he was not getting all the hype or attention. I think most of this is all OSU media hype machine at work. Ram neutralized all of them last year. So did most of the big ten OT they faced. None have been able to make the big play when it counted the most either . I had high hopes last year for the group and saw absolutely nothing out of them. I am still waiting for them to change my mind. Right now IMO they are upside picks or in other words they have yet to do it.
Teams are giving the OSU DE to much attention and when OSU faces a well balanced talented line they will find these DE are not to hard to handle. Orlando Brown showed me more in the OU vs OSU The most over hyped to date is Key. I did not see it last year and he has to get on the field to show me some thing this year. Look at Chubb. Teams are doing everything they can to stop him for two years straight and all he does is keep making plays and making big plays when they are needed most. Chubb just keeps putting up the most complete set stats of all DE in college. This could be a weak year at DE and a player like Chubb is just not glamorous enough athletically to get all the hype. Sure Chubb is not as gifted athletically as all these other players but he is a much better football player right now than any of the DE ranked ahead of him. IMO |
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09-29-2017, 01:56 PM | #14 |
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I'd agree with Key being overrated...
But, whether I like it or not, I've seen enough Ohio State games to know that Bosa is not overrated... In fact, most of the attention he has received should better prepare him for the NFL... It takes alot for me to even shout out for players from the Big 10... And while I'd dump half the draft to move up for Baker Mayfield or Luke Falk, or a No. 1 and players like Armstead, this is the draft to get Brees' replacement... |
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After the show Falk put on last night he is back on my list as a solid 1 in the middle of the round. gotta do some digging on these so called head hits. He stands tall in the pocket no matter the pressure. Getting his bell rung is what I am hoping they are talking about. That is not that big of an issue in my book. Full blown not knowing were you at and asking for momma is another issue all together. Then it is how long did it take for the head to clear and how many.
Love the way he goes through his progressions. This sets him a part from all the other top QB in the draft, he is so far ahead of everyone else. The kid does not get rattled. Imagine if he had top talent recruited around him. A lot of drops over the years by WR. Falk still needs coaching. A couple of years behind Drew and SP in his ear is just what this kid needs. Match made in heaven? On the other hand Sam Darnold, it's all about upside and he still has questions he needs to answer. He is a great example of what I was saying about the OSU DE. The athleticism and skill set is all there. It is more about great flashes of what might be. Hype is all about the "IF". Donald is young and this year he is off to a so so start. Can he handle it and bounce back? Right now I am saying stay in school. Just like I said last year with OSU DEs despite the 3rd round grades they were getting from the media scouts. Right now I see them as 1/2 type of players with the great OSU media hype machine backing them up the chart. Bradley Chubb is still my #1 complete DE. Run or Pass, Inside or Outside makes no difference, he does it all at a high level from any where on the field. He may not be a sack specialist at the next level. But he will be a player that keeps LB clean and open up lanes for blitzes. Like Cam he out mans his way to the QB. SDE? hard to find faults in his game. Slide him inside and bring on the speed rusher on passing downs is a great skill set the saints are lacking. "IF" the OSU DEs get it going and the light comes on, they will be good if not great. Lets see what happens now that they are getting into the meat of the schedule. The higher we draft in round 1 the more an "IF" drives me nuts. "IF" Latt can stay healthy was the #1 reason I would have not picked him and the reason i think he dropped to us. Howard had NO "IFs" IMO. Shame a talent like Howard is trapped in Tampa. The pairing of Drew and Howard had the makings of some thing special. oh well. Latt is the man. "Ifs" need not apply in the top 15 unless the talent is not there. That is my psychotic way of looking at the top of round 1 in the draft. |
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09-30-2017, 06:33 AM | #20 |
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