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jeanpierre 02-05-2018 09:03 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 791512)
Here is a guy who played well as a sophomore but kind of disappeared last season. According to coach O Key took a "leave of absence" pre spring camp for personal reasons, then had surgery later in the season & missed a multiple games. He has all of the physical tools to transition at the elite level, however I question his motivation.

At pick #27? ... I think I'd pass.

Expected more numbers out of Rankins, but our NTs aren't keeping OLs honest and Rankins can't beat double teams he's drawing...

Value Taven more here because he and Rankins can both switch between DE and DT3, allowing greater flexibility in matchups...

I'd agree that whatever happened last year with Arden Key needs close scrutiny and an extended personal interview...

But Key's two previous years of production are hard to ignore as he was going against many O-linemen now in the NFL...

ChrisXVI 02-05-2018 09:33 AM

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Word is Arden Key went to rehab and personnel guys fear he may be another Randy Gregory.

K Major 02-05-2018 09:36 AM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 791522)
Word is Arden Key went to rehab and personnel guys fear he may be another Randy Gregory.

Oh hell no. Too many ??? at pick #27.

Pass.

saintsfan1976 02-05-2018 09:45 AM

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On D: MLB, DE, CB, S

On O: TE, WR, OL

ChrisXVI 02-05-2018 10:11 AM

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I always enjoy Matt Miller’s draft coverage over at Bleacher Report. This morning he put out a full 7 round mock draft. Here’s what he has the Saints doing:

27. New Orleans Saints

The Pick: LB Malik Jefferson, Texas

The upcoming offseason will be an interesting one for the New Orleans Saints. Quarterback Drew Brees has said he wants to return, but we've all learned that what people say and do can sometimes be two different things. Other free agents—like safety Kenny Vaccaro—likely won't be back as the team churns the roster and players look for money and opportunities elsewhere. Who stays and goes will ultimately shape the draft for the Saints.

It'll be hard to top the 2017 draft class that brought Marshon Lattimore, Ryan Ramczyk, Alvin Kamara and Marcus Williams to the roster; but the Saints have a reputation now for a well-honed front office. Those evaluators should see a defense that badly needs speed and playmakers in the front seven.

Malik Jefferson is a special athlete who will post rare times at the scouting combine, but some teams are struggling to reconcile that with his film that was at times uninspiring. Jefferson, playing middle linebacker, was a step late occasionally but was able to make up for it with speed. You can't do that in the NFL, of course, but with coaching and reps at just one position instead of jumping all over the defense, Jefferson could be a high-level starter.


91. New Orleans Saints S Jordan Whitehead, Pitt

123. New Orleans Saints EDGE Kemoko Turay, Rutgers

138. New Orleans Saints (from Miami) WR Dante Pettis, Washington

155. New Orleans Saints QB Riley Ferguson, Memphis

175. New Orleans Saints (from Arizona) CB Michael Joseph, Dubuque

187. New Orleans Saints LB Dorian O'Daniel, Clemson

219. New Orleans Saints OT Greg Senat, Wagner

jeanpierre 02-05-2018 08:50 PM

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Don't trust Malik Jefferson; he reminds me of Dannell Ellerbe...

jeanpierre 02-05-2018 08:56 PM

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2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05)

No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 59 (R2, 27) Traded this pick with 2017 NFL Draft (R7, 229) to San Francisco via Chicago for Pick 2017 NFL Draft (R3, 67) Pick, Selected RB Alvin Kamara ROTY

No. 91 (R3, 27) LB Josey Jewell, Iowa; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 236 lbs.
Remaining Positions Approximated Until Compensatory Picks Assigned by NFL

No. 133 (R4, 27) OT Alex Cappa, Humboldt St.; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 309 lbs.

No. 154 (R5, 11) Traded LB Stephone Anthony to Miami for this pick
No. 154 (R5, 11) RG Colby Gossett, Appalachian St.; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 320 lbs.

No. 170 (R5, 27) WR Trey Quinn, SMU; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 202 lbs.

No. 184 (R6, 15) Traded RB Adrian Peterson to Arizona for this pick
No. 184 (R6, 15) RT Nick Gates, Nebraska; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 196 (R6, 27) SS Kyle Queiro, Northwestern; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 229 (R7, 27) LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 236 lbs. (+)

K Major 02-05-2018 09:45 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 791591)
2018 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects (Updated 2018/02/05)

No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

Top 15 pick. I think he'll be gone early.

ChrisXVI 02-05-2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 791594)
Top 15 pick. I think he'll be gone early.

Everything I’ve read lately compares Taven Bryan to JJ Watt. Tremendous momentum pushing him up draft boards at the moment. I haven’t watched one second of his game tape yet but it’s sounding like he could be the first DT off the board.

ChrisXVI 02-06-2018 10:17 AM

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Todd McShay Mock Draft 2.0

27. New Orleans Saints - Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College

I don’t have Todd’s reasoning for the pick but just as food for thought here’s some Harold Landry info from NFL.com’s draft profile...

Sources Tell Us
"He's just like (Vic) Beasley coming out with the way he comes off the snap. You remember how Beasley struggled early because he had to learn to be a pass rusher and not just a sprinter? I think Landry might be the same early on. When he puts it together, he'll do what Beasley did." -- NFC team pro personnel director

NFL Comparison
Bruce Irvin

Bottom Line
Landry lacks premium size, but his burst, stride length and ability to dip and rip around the edge give him special potential as an edge rusher. Landry lacks strength at the point of attack and may be a designated pass rusher early in his career. While he can play standing for 3-4 teams, he's at his best with his hand in the dirt as a rusher. Landry can get by as an NFL rusher with just speed and athleticism, but he has an opportunity to become a Pro Bowler if he can improve his hand usage and develop an inside counter.


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