2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 01-14-2018, 08:09 PM

I'm going linebacker. We need more speed in the middle of the field. Similar to that Kendricks kid. If no ballers at LB are there at #27, go find another big ugly (offensive lineman).

ChrisXVI · 01-14-2018, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm going linebacker. We need more speed in the middle of the field. Similar to that Kendricks kid. If no ballers at LB are there at #27, go find another big ugly (offensive lineman).

Yeah I still don’t think we have the right line-up yet at LB. I like the guys we have, but they aren’t big playmakers. I have a feeling the team will probably stick with Klein and Te’o as starters, but is Anzalone the answer on the weak side? He did beat out Robertson.

Any favorite LB’s in the draft? I’m liking Tremaine Edmunds (brother of our own Trey Edmunds.)

Tremaine Edmunds*, OLB, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-5. Weight: 236.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3

K Major · 01-15-2018, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Any favorite LB’s in the draft? I’m liking Tremaine Edmunds (brother of our own Trey Edmunds.)

Tremaine Edmunds*, OLB, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-5. Weight: 236.
Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
Projected Round (2018): 1-3

Just hadn't seen any VA Tech games to have insight. Chris, is he a MIKE or SAM? Where would that put Anzalone ?

Hmm ...

ChrisXVI · 01-15-2018, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Just hadn't seen any VA Tech games to have insight. Chris, is he a MIKE or SAM? Where would that put Anzalone ?

Hmm ...

Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler.

I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people.

ChrisXVI · 01-15-2018, 09:43 PM

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hagan714 · 01-16-2018, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler.

I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people.

This system is one reason why one of my top 5 prospects in the draft for the saints is a possible replacement for Kenny if he is let go. Even then I would draft him if all the specs check out in the pre draft beauty shows

Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

A true hybrid safety-linebacker. White is one of the most physically imposing safeties in the country with his long arms and a linebacker’s mentality. His role at West Virginia is not traditional. He plays as a "big nickel" player, spending a lot of time in the slot or off the edge as a pseudo-linebacker. He fits the new breed of safeties that fits what NFL defenses need to combat offenses looking to create mismatches with running backs and tight ends in the passing game. White possesses quick awareness and has the range to cover in space, but also can be assigned gap responsibilities closer to the line of scrimmage, while being able to cover both shifty and larger targets in the passing game. If you want a player who can defend the run and be an enforcer near the line of scrimmage, White can be that type of player. White doesn’t spend a lot of time on the deep end of the field, so if he can prove himself in that regard at the Senior Bowl in January it will go a long way toward his draft stock. I bet he may be seen as a linebacker down the road. He is one of the more intriguing players at his position in the draft class. His coverage skills have improved by leaps and bounds this year.

YouTube (Short URL)

Heep an eye on

Fred Warner OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr
Skai Moore LB South Carolina 6021 218 4.65 #10 Sr

ChrisXVI · 01-16-2018, 09:05 AM

Thanks so much Hagan for turning me on to Kyzir White! After doing a little research on West Virginia’s defensive scheme and White’s role within it, I’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him.

K Major · 01-16-2018, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

TI’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him.

Decisions, decisions.

jeanpierre · 01-17-2018, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

This system is one reason why one of my top 5 prospects in the draft for the saints is a possible replacement for Kenny if he is let go. Even then I would draft him if all the specs check out in the pre draft beauty shows

Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

A true hybrid safety-linebacker. White is one of the most physically imposing safeties in the country with his long arms and a linebacker’s mentality. His role at West Virginia is not traditional. He plays as a "big nickel" player, spending a lot of time in the slot or off the edge as a pseudo-linebacker. He fits the new breed of safeties that fits what NFL defenses need to combat offenses looking to create mismatches with running backs and tight ends in the passing game. White possesses quick awareness and has the range to cover in space, but also can be assigned gap responsibilities closer to the line of scrimmage, while being able to cover both shifty and larger targets in the passing game. If you want a player who can defend the run and be an enforcer near the line of scrimmage, White can be that type of player. White doesn’t spend a lot of time on the deep end of the field, so if he can prove himself in that regard at the Senior Bowl in January it will go a long way toward his draft stock. I bet he may be seen as a linebacker down the road. He is one of the more intriguing players at his position in the draft class. His coverage skills have improved by leaps and bounds this year.

https://youtu.be/8LR0CMX3_xc

Heep an eye on

Fred Warner OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr
Skai Moore LB South Carolina 6021 218 4.65 #10 Sr

Thomas Davis

K Major · 01-16-2018, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler.

I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people.

Chris, thanks for this post and I'd like to expound on this if I may.

Edmunds appears to be a freak (size, range, speed) but honestly if he doesn't have the instincts, it really doesn't matter because if you are that big and strong moving in the wrong direction, what exactly does that do for us?

Over the years, I'm really starting to notice that when evaluating at the LB position, instincts should be FIRST, speed, size second. I think this could possibly be a reason what got Stephone Anthony over drafted

. If you review SA college tape, you couldn't tell he was a 4.57 runner (red flag) out of the gate. When kids times faster than they look on their tape ... I'm curious to know what's up. Generally, it possibly indicates that their process is slow but in a B line, he's Carl Lewis.

I'm looking at guys whose tape looks fast. Deion Jones was fast at LSU, Kuechly at BC, Vilma at Miami, Wagner at Utah St etc.

Thoughts?

01-15-2018, 06:00 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Any favorite LB’s in the draft? I’m liking Tremaine Edmunds (brother of our own Trey Edmunds.) Tremaine Edmunds, OLB, Virginia Tech Height: 6-5. Weight: 236. Projected 40 Time: 4.71. Projected Round (2018): 1-3 Just hadn't seen any VA Tech games to have insight. Chris, is he a MIKE* or SAM? Where would that put Anzalone ? Hmm ...

01-15-2018, 09:43 PM	#5
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints East-West Shrine Game Team Interviews: New Orleans Saints Syracuse S Jordan Martin Penn WR Justin Watson Bowling Green P Joseph Davidson Michigan State C Brian Allen Miami DE Chad Thomas SMU DE Justin Lawler Northwestern S Godwin Igwebuike Texas DT Poona Ford Indiana LB Tegray Scales

01-16-2018, 09:05 AM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Thanks so much Hagan for turning me on to Kyzir White! After doing a little research on West Virginia’s defensive scheme and White’s role within it, I’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him.

01-17-2018, 06:39 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by hagan714 This system is one reason why one of my top 5 prospects in the draft for the saints is a possible replacement for Kenny if he is let go. Even then I would draft him if all the specs check out in the pre draft beauty shows Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr A true hybrid safety-linebacker. White is one of the most physically imposing safeties in the country with his long arms and a linebacker’s mentality. His role at West Virginia is not traditional. He plays as a "big nickel" player, spending a lot of time in the slot or off the edge as a pseudo-linebacker. He fits the new breed of safeties that fits what NFL defenses need to combat offenses looking to create mismatches with running backs and tight ends in the passing game. White possesses quick awareness and has the range to cover in space, but also can be assigned gap responsibilities closer to the line of scrimmage, while being able to cover both shifty and larger targets in the passing game. If you want a player who can defend the run and be an enforcer near the line of scrimmage, White can be that type of player. White doesn’t spend a lot of time on the deep end of the field, so if he can prove himself in that regard at the Senior Bowl in January it will go a long way toward his draft stock. I bet he may be seen as a linebacker down the road. He is one of the more intriguing players at his position in the draft class. His coverage skills have improved by leaps and bounds this year. https://youtu.be/8LR0CMX3_xc Heep an eye on Fred Warner OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr Skai Moore LB South Carolina 6021 218 4.65 #10 Sr Thomas Davis

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01-14-2018, 08:09 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints I'm going linebacker. We need more speed in the middle of the field. Similar to that Kendricks kid. If no ballers at LB are there at #27, go find another big ugly (offensive lineman).

01-14-2018, 08:29 PM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major I'm going linebacker. We need more speed in the middle of the field. Similar to that Kendricks kid. If no ballers at LB are there at #27, go find another big ugly (offensive lineman). Yeah I still don’t think we have the right line-up yet at LB. I like the guys we have, but they aren’t big playmakers. I have a feeling the team will probably stick with Klein and Te’o as starters, but is Anzalone the answer on the weak side? He did beat out Robertson. Any favorite LB’s in the draft? I’m liking Tremaine Edmunds (brother of our own Trey Edmunds.) Tremaine Edmunds*, OLB, Virginia Tech Height: 6-5. Weight: 236. Projected 40 Time: 4.71. Projected Round (2018): 1-3

01-15-2018, 09:21 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Just hadn't seen any VA Tech games to have insight. Chris, is he a MIKE or SAM? Where would that put Anzalone ? Hmm ... Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler. I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people.

01-16-2018, 10:10 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI TI’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him. Decisions, decisions.

01-16-2018, 10:38 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler. I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people. Chris, thanks for this post and I'd like to expound on this if I may. Edmunds appears to be a freak (size, range, speed) but honestly if he doesn't have the instincts, it really doesn't matter because if you are that big and strong moving in the wrong direction, what exactly does that do for us? Over the years, I'm really starting to notice that when evaluating at the LB position, instincts should be FIRST, speed, size second. I think this could possibly be a reason what got Stephone Anthony over drafted . If you review SA college tape, you couldn't tell he was a 4.57 runner (red flag) out of the gate. When kids times faster than they look on their tape ... I'm curious to know what's up. Generally, it possibly indicates that their process is slow but in a B line, he's Carl Lewis. I'm looking at guys whose tape looks fast. Deion Jones was fast at LSU, Kuechly at BC, Vilma at Miami, Wagner at Utah St etc. Thoughts?