2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 03-23-2018, 10:44 AM

Dante Pettis. He is a super dangerous punt returner & has vision.

Possible upgrade over TLL?

Dante Pettis \| All 9 Career Punt Return Touchdowns (NCAA Record) - YouTube

jeanpierre · 03-23-2018, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Mike is peaking at the best possible moment (Pro Day & NFL combine). Big, strong, fast & appears to be a freak of nature. He's compared well to Jimmy G. The only negative from a lot of scouts is his blocking .

I just don't think he'll be on the board after Day 2. Would love to have him though.

No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 27 (R1, 27) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 247 lbs.

K Major · 03-23-2018, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs.

In my Hagan's voice ... "sell me on Leighton Vander Esch in the 1st rd!"

jeanpierre · 03-23-2018, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

In my Hagan's voice ... "sell me on Leighton Vander Esch in the 1st rd!"

Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher?

Mike Fazende was one of the guest last night (airs LIVE on Thursdays on WLAE at 6pm)...

I like Mike, good, humble guy with a great grasp on personnel, team fit, salary cap, and an unabashed, but honest, NOLA homer...

To paraphrase, Fazende highlighted a great point about how Vander Esch went from being a walk-On as a TE/WR to playing as an elite LB...

Vander Esch learned a new position and re-built his body, was outstandingly productive and earned first round grade in three years...

That kind of player to come from lean walk-on to top tier prospect linebacker is one who you jumps out at you and you take notice...

You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods...

I'd also mention that unlike these Bama and UGA linebackers, he didn't have great talent around him or in front of him on his defensive line...

Evans and Smith will be solid pros, but they came from factories that mill out these guys and have superior talent around them, rarely challenged or directly targeted...

Consider Fazende's point and then you realize that this is a young man that understands adversity and challenge and has already demonstrated he can overcome it...

For me, it's Taven Bryan or Vander Esch or Bust...And I'd jump the Falcons to get either one...

Sarik · 03-25-2018, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher?

Mike Fazende was one of the guest last night (airs LIVE on Thursdays on WLAE at 6pm)...

I like Mike, good, humble guy with a great grasp on personnel, team fit, salary cap, and an unabashed, but honest, NOLA homer...

To paraphrase, Fazende highlighted a great point about how Vander Esch went from being a walk-On as a TE/WR to playing as an elite LB...

Vander Esch learned a new position and re-built his body, was outstandingly productive and earned first round grade in three years...

That kind of player to come from lean walk-on to top tier prospect linebacker is one who you jumps out at you and you take notice...

You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods...

I'd also mention that unlike these Bama and UGA linebackers, he didn't have great talent around him or in front of him on his defensive line...

Evans and Smith will be solid pros, but they came from factories that mill out these guys and have superior talent around them, rarely challenged or directly targeted...

Consider Fazende's point and then you realize that this is a young man that understands adversity and challenge and has already demonstrated he can overcome it...

For me, it's Taven Bryan or Vander Esch or Bust...And I'd jump the Falcons to get either one...

How can this not excite some people???? He shows it all on tape too.

K Major · 03-25-2018, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher?

You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods...

Just from watching 3 games (replay of course), he is a step too slow, stiff hips & I don't see the instincts that many seem to emphasize. Esch measurable says he a MIKE but I see him on the outside (WLB) at the elite level. The combine cone drills, 40 times were impressive but I didn't see those traits on tape. Sparq scores are nice but they are only a small piece to a big picture.

There are lots of other players I'd like at 27 but this kid ain't one of em.

MarchingOn · 03-24-2018, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dante Pettis. He is a super dangerous punt returner & has vision.

Possible upgrade over TLL?

Dante Pettis | All 9 Career Punt Return Touchdowns (NCAA Record) - YouTube

Thanks for the insight, K.

Maybe he'd be a consideration if we trade down (ha) if all our targeted players are already gone by then.

One of those for me was DT Taven Bryan but I don't like that an analyst said Bryan wasn't consistent stopping the run. I am so tired of being gashed right up the middle.

So, liking DT Phillips more now. Or TE.

03-23-2018, 02:48 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Mike is peaking at the best possible moment (Pro Day & NFL combine). Big, strong, fast & appears to be a freak of nature. He's compared well to Jimmy G. The only negative from a lot of scouts is his blocking . I just don't think he'll be on the board after Day 2. Would love to have him though. No. 27 (R1, 27) DT Taven Bryan, Florida; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs. No. 27 (R1, 27) TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 247 lbs.

03-23-2018, 02:56 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre No. 27 (R1, 27) LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St.; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 245 lbs. In my Hagan's voice ... "sell me on Leighton Vander Esch in the 1st rd!"

03-23-2018, 03:28 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major In my Hagan's voice ... "sell me on Leighton Vander Esch in the 1st rd!" Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher? Mike Fazende was one of the guest last night (airs LIVE on Thursdays on WLAE at 6pm)... I like Mike, good, humble guy with a great grasp on personnel, team fit, salary cap, and an unabashed, but honest, NOLA homer... To paraphrase, Fazende highlighted a great point about how Vander Esch went from being a walk-On as a TE/WR to playing as an elite LB... Vander Esch learned a new position and re-built his body, was outstandingly productive and earned first round grade in three years... That kind of player to come from lean walk-on to top tier prospect linebacker is one who you jumps out at you and you take notice... You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods... I'd also mention that unlike these Bama and UGA linebackers, he didn't have great talent around him or in front of him on his defensive line... Evans and Smith will be solid pros, but they came from factories that mill out these guys and have superior talent around them, rarely challenged or directly targeted... Consider Fazende's point and then you realize that this is a young man that understands adversity and challenge and has already demonstrated he can overcome it... For me, it's Taven Bryan or Vander Esch or Bust...And I'd jump the Falcons to get either one...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way... Last edited by jeanpierre; 03-23-2018 at 03:39 PM..

03-25-2018, 03:34 AM	#5
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher? Mike Fazende was one of the guest last night (airs LIVE on Thursdays on WLAE at 6pm)... I like Mike, good, humble guy with a great grasp on personnel, team fit, salary cap, and an unabashed, but honest, NOLA homer... To paraphrase, Fazende highlighted a great point about how Vander Esch went from being a walk-On as a TE/WR to playing as an elite LB... Vander Esch learned a new position and re-built his body, was outstandingly productive and earned first round grade in three years... That kind of player to come from lean walk-on to top tier prospect linebacker is one who you jumps out at you and you take notice... You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods... I'd also mention that unlike these Bama and UGA linebackers, he didn't have great talent around him or in front of him on his defensive line... Evans and Smith will be solid pros, but they came from factories that mill out these guys and have superior talent around them, rarely challenged or directly targeted... Consider Fazende's point and then you realize that this is a young man that understands adversity and challenge and has already demonstrated he can overcome it... For me, it's Taven Bryan or Vander Esch or Bust...And I'd jump the Falcons to get either one... How can this not excite some people???? He shows it all on tape too.

03-25-2018, 08:34 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Do you watch Inside New Orleans Sports with Eric Asher? You factor in his SPARQ, his Combine Performance, his increase in production - this guy is the goods... Just from watching 3 games (replay of course), he is a step too slow, stiff hips & I don't see the instincts that many seem to emphasize. Esch measurable says he a MIKE but I see him on the outside (WLB) at the elite level. The combine cone drills, 40 times were impressive but I didn't see those traits on tape. Sparq scores are nice but they are only a small piece to a big picture. There are lots of other players I'd like at 27 but this kid ain't one of em.

03-24-2018, 04:15 PM	#7
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Dante Pettis. He is a super dangerous punt returner & has vision. Possible upgrade over TLL? Dante Pettis \| All 9 Career Punt Return Touchdowns (NCAA Record) - YouTube Thanks for the insight, K. Maybe he'd be a consideration if we trade down (ha) if all our targeted players are already gone by then. One of those for me was DT Taven Bryan but I don't like that an analyst said Bryan wasn't consistent stopping the run. I am so tired of being gashed right up the middle. So, liking DT Phillips more now. Or TE.

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