Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit

RockyMountainSaint · 10-15-2017, 04:15 PM

I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial.

Seer1 · 10-15-2017, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial.

Took you this long? Really?

dizzle88 · 10-15-2017, 04:16 PM

Drew and SP didn't heed their own message.

Drew said keep the foot on their throats and could barely complete a pass the entire second half.

blackangold · 10-15-2017, 04:22 PM

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

dizzle88 · 10-15-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years.

However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half.

WHODATINCA · 10-16-2017, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Drew has had 3 completions of 40+ yards this season. He has a PR of 103.2. Last year he only had 10 completions of 40+ yards. In 2009, he only had 11 completions of 40+ yards. I don't think the issue is Drew's arm. I think the issue is that our run game is inconsistent and play-action opportunities suffer because of it ( and our o-line has been unstable ). I also think our short passing game has been stunted without Willie Snead ( which also has meant less check-down opportunities and not enough decoys on the field ). Also, Coleman has not exactly shined this season. He needs to step up.

The Dude · 10-15-2017, 04:49 PM

If there is any question about the Value of Armstead it should have been answered today. As soon as they pulled him out the offense started to sputter. He went back in but they never did get a chance to regroup. It has as much to do with consistency on the offensive line as it did Armstead I guess but it all started then.

I also saw a lot of short passes from Drew as well. He's getting old.

SaintsBro · 10-15-2017, 04:51 PM

If you have to drop a 50-burger to win an unnecessary nailbiter, and people actually use the word "wackiest" to describe your victory, I'm not sure how much there is to really celebrate. I'll give them credit, Payton banged the gong, and the offense scored some points for the hometown fans, but it was far from dominant.

Seer1 · 10-15-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

If you have to drop a 50-burger to win an unnecessary nailbiter, and people actually use the word "wackiest" to describe your victory, I'm not sure how much there is to really celebrate. I'll give them credit, Payton banged the gong, and the offense scored some points for the hometown fans, but it was far from dominant.

Any win is just like a newly opened bottle: Well worth celebrating.

|Mitch| · 10-15-2017, 07:44 PM

I'm celebrating next week! We get to face a Rodgers less GB team...

10-15-2017, 04:15 PM	#1
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial. Halo and foreverfan like this.

10-15-2017, 07:38 PM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint I've learned that sports writers can use many words while saying nothing substantial. Took you this long? Really? RockyMountainSaint likes this.

10-15-2017, 04:16 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Drew and SP didn't heed their own message. Drew said keep the foot on their throats and could barely complete a pass the entire second half. Halo, RockyMountainSaint and hagan714 like this.

10-15-2017, 04:22 PM	#4
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.
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10-15-2017, 04:32 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by blackangold Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years. However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half. RockyMountainSaint and Thirty3 like this.

10-16-2017, 03:11 AM	#6
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by blackangold Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Drew has had 3 completions of 40+ yards this season. He has a PR of 103.2. Last year he only had 10 completions of 40+ yards. In 2009, he only had 11 completions of 40+ yards. I don't think the issue is Drew's arm. I think the issue is that our run game is inconsistent and play-action opportunities suffer because of it ( and our o-line has been unstable ). I also think our short passing game has been stunted without Willie Snead ( which also has meant less check-down opportunities and not enough decoys on the field ). Also, Coleman has not exactly shined this season. He needs to step up.
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10-15-2017, 04:49 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit If there is any question about the Value of Armstead it should have been answered today. As soon as they pulled him out the offense started to sputter. He went back in but they never did get a chance to regroup. It has as much to do with consistency on the offensive line as it did Armstead I guess but it all started then. I also saw a lot of short passes from Drew as well. He's getting old. RockyMountainSaint likes this.
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10-15-2017, 04:51 PM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit If you have to drop a 50-burger to win an unnecessary nailbiter, and people actually use the word "wackiest" to describe your victory, I'm not sure how much there is to really celebrate. I'll give them credit, Payton banged the gong, and the offense scored some points for the hometown fans, but it was far from dominant. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

10-15-2017, 07:40 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by SaintsBro If you have to drop a 50-burger to win an unnecessary nailbiter, and people actually use the word "wackiest" to describe your victory, I'm not sure how much there is to really celebrate. I'll give them credit, Payton banged the gong, and the offense scored some points for the hometown fans, but it was far from dominant. Any win is just like a newly opened bottle: Well worth celebrating. K Major likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit I'm celebrating next week! We get to face a Rodgers less GB team...

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