Deuce doesn't help the offense much?!

GumboBC · 04-08-2005, 04:58 PM

Deuce McAllister
2002 - 13TD
2003 - 8TD
2004 - 9TD

LaDainian Tomlinson
2002 - 14TD
2003 - 13TD
2004 - 17TD

Shaun Alexander
2002 - 16TD
2003 - 14TD
2004 - 16TD

Priest Holmes
2002 -21
2003 - 27
2004 - 14

For context, let's take a look at all the RBs with a least 200 touches (i.e., receptions plus rushing attempts) last season and how they fared on a TD-per-touch basis:

Player
TD%
Priest Holmes
6.85%
T.J. Duckett
5.29%
Ahman Green
4.94%
Shaun Alexander
4.35%
Marshall Faulk
4.33%
Clinton Portis
4.27%
LaDainian Tomlinson
4.12%
Rudi Johnson
3.83%
Jamal Lewis
3.39%
Moe Williams
3.35%
Travis Henry
3.06%
Edgerrin James
3.06%
Kevan Barlow
2.97%
Domanick Davis
2.81%
Jerome Bettis
2.70%
Stephen Davis
2.41%
Anthony Thomas
2.37%
Ricky Williams
2.26%
Garrison Hearst
1.97%
Deuce McAllister
1.90%
Fred Taylor
1.78%
Troy Hambrick
1.71%
Eddie George
1.50%
Shawn Bryson
1.42%
Tiki Barber
0.86%
Michael Pittman
0.76%
Curtis Martin
0.55%
Marcel Shipp
0.00%
Kevin Faulk
0.00%

Why doesn't Deuce score more TDs? It seems for all the yards he gains, Deuce just doesn't help this offense when it comes to scoring. And that's a pretty important STAT !!

Danno · 04-08-2005, 05:09 PM

Must be because he doesn\'t smile when he screws up. He mopes and pouts and quits.
Maybe thats why he\'s so popular with Saint\'s fans. He\'s a natural born pessimist!

[Edited on 8/4/2005 by Danno]

dberce1 · 04-08-2005, 05:11 PM

Why doesn\'t Deuce score more TDs? It seems for all the yards he gains, Deuce just doesn\'t help this offense when it comes to scoring. And that\'s a pretty important STAT !!

Maybe because Brooks usually fumbles the goal line snap.

spkb25 · 04-08-2005, 05:19 PM

probally because we have other options in the red zone. at least two of the other guys you names dont or didnt have much. the only person preist has been competing with is gonzalez. tomlinson before last year was the only option. besides we have been down in so many games by so many points do we really ever have the option of doing much else besides throwing.

WhoDat · 04-08-2005, 05:47 PM

Clearly it\'s the line\'s fault.

kojak · 04-08-2005, 05:47 PM

PLEASE PLEASE DONT TELL ME YOUR A BROOKS FAN

CUZ IF YOU ARE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK ABOUT ANYBODY MUCH LESS OUR \"OFFENSE\" DUECE THAT IS NOT BROOKS

GumboBC · 04-08-2005, 05:56 PM

PLEASE PLEASE DONT TELL ME YOUR A BROOKS FAN

CUZ IF YOU ARE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK ABOUT ANYBODY MUCH LESS OUR \"OFFENSE\" DUECE THAT IS NOT BROOKS

9-posts? Get one more under your belt and we\'ll talk ...

Just kidding with you, of course.

There\'s a Brooks\' bashing party. See WhoDat and saintwhodi and they\'ll get you an offical T-shirt. :P

[Edited on 8/4/2005 by GumboBC]

saintswhodi · 04-08-2005, 05:59 PM

Are the negative statements about Brooks FACTS or FICTION? They are FACTS. Call it bashing if you want. So you are bashing Deuce then, right? So we can label you as an official Deuce basher. See how many people jump on that train as opposed to the AB FACTS train.

kojak · 04-08-2005, 05:59 PM

im not bashing ab
im just saying deuce can only do so much

if you put enough men in the box and the qb doesnt audible out of a running play when he has his receivers in man to man you tell me

oh and as for the posts im just coming back on the new site

but thanks for your concern

saintswhodi · 04-08-2005, 06:10 PM

Welcome kojak. Never mind Gumbo. Sometimes his AB shades clouds his judgment of most things rational.

04-08-2005, 04:58 PM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce doesn't help the offense much?! Deuce McAllister 2002 - 13TD 2003 - 8TD 2004 - 9TD LaDainian Tomlinson 2002 - 14TD 2003 - 13TD 2004 - 17TD Shaun Alexander 2002 - 16TD 2003 - 14TD 2004 - 16TD Priest Holmes 2002 -21 2003 - 27 2004 - 14 For context, let's take a look at all the RBs with a least 200 touches (i.e., receptions plus rushing attempts) last season and how they fared on a TD-per-touch basis: Player TD% Priest Holmes 6.85% T.J. Duckett 5.29% Ahman Green 4.94% Shaun Alexander 4.35% Marshall Faulk 4.33% Clinton Portis 4.27% LaDainian Tomlinson 4.12% Rudi Johnson 3.83% Jamal Lewis 3.39% Moe Williams 3.35% Travis Henry 3.06% Edgerrin James 3.06% Kevan Barlow 2.97% Domanick Davis 2.81% Jerome Bettis 2.70% Stephen Davis 2.41% Anthony Thomas 2.37% Ricky Williams 2.26% Garrison Hearst 1.97% Deuce McAllister 1.90% Fred Taylor 1.78% Troy Hambrick 1.71% Eddie George 1.50% Shawn Bryson 1.42% Tiki Barber 0.86% Michael Pittman 0.76% Curtis Martin 0.55% Marcel Shipp 0.00% Kevin Faulk 0.00% Why doesn't Deuce score more TDs? It seems for all the yards he gains, Deuce just doesn't help this offense when it comes to scoring. And that's a pretty important STAT !!
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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce doesn't help the offense much?! PLEASE PLEASE DONT TELL ME YOUR A BROOKS FAN CUZ IF YOU ARE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK ABOUT ANYBODY MUCH LESS OUR \"OFFENSE\" DUECE THAT IS NOT BROOKS 9-posts? Get one more under your belt and we\'ll talk ... Just kidding with you, of course. There\'s a Brooks\' bashing party. See WhoDat and saintwhodi and they\'ll get you an offical T-shirt. :P [Edited on 8/4/2005 by GumboBC]
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Deuce doesn't help the offense much?! Are the negative statements about Brooks FACTS or FICTION? They are FACTS. Call it bashing if you want. So you are bashing Deuce then, right? So we can label you as an official Deuce basher. See how many people jump on that train as opposed to the AB FACTS train.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Deuce doesn't help the offense much?! Welcome kojak. Never mind Gumbo. Sometimes his AB shades clouds his judgment of most things rational.