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What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I’m not mad about the two long runs the Bears broke. It happens. We sent the all out blitz and he just happened to slip away. We sold out for the safety and Howard was able to make us pay. ...
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10-29-2017, 04:21 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
I’m not mad about the two long runs the Bears broke. It happens. We sent the all out blitz and he just happened to slip away. We sold out for the safety and Howard was able to make us pay. **** happens when you’re playing aggressively.
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10-29-2017, 08:37 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by rezburna
I disagree, that ****'s unacceptable. The Saints rank 30th in the league allowing 4.9 yards per carry. It's one thing when a guy gets beat, that's football. It's another when a guy just blows his responsibility. This stuff is supposed to be worked out in preseason.
Dalvin Cooks had his best run of the season against the Saints Amheer Abdullah had his best run of the season against the Saints Johnathan Stewart had his best run of the season against the Saints Brett Hundley had his best run of the season against the Saints Aaron Jones had his best run of the season against the Saints Jordan Howard had his best run of the season against the Saints Mitch Trubisky had his best run of the season against the Saints When it happens every three or four games, then it's "oh well, **** happens", when it happens all the time and 7 players in 7 games have had their best runs against us, it's a pattern. |
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10-29-2017, 10:26 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint
Guys blow responsibility all the time. That too, is football. Like I said, they caught us selling out for the big play on both of those long runs. Other than that the run defense was relatively fine. This is a very young defense. There’s going to be bad to go along with the good. We shouldn’t even be having a conversation about what the defense needs to do. They gave up 12 points. The offense needs to get in the way end zone when they hit the red zone. I’m starting to like the idea of a Jimmy Graham trade more and more.
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10-29-2017, 10:55 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by rezburna
Yeah, it's football, it's bad football. Giving up 5.1 yards/att is bad football.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happier than a fat boy with a fudge cycle with how the defense is playing overall, but giving up 4.9 yards per carry for the season sucks. And when it's mental errors or a lack of discipline, then it's just stupid. Like I pointed out earlier, it's not just this game. It's not a fluke, it's a tendency. I'm with you on Graham. Not only as a red zone threat but we're not exploiting the mid field seam route like we used to. And we could use some serious help on third down. Wish I knew what was going on with Snead. |
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10-30-2017, 07:12 AM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint
We just don’t have the quality of linebackers that we might have perceived preseason. They’re far better than the group we had years prior, but there’s a reason we tried to trade for Navorro Bowman. We’re still looking for a MLB. A.J. Klein isn’t really that. He’s average at best, when many of us thought he’d be elite in a starting role. How many picks has he dropped this year? That big run that gashed us was on Manti Te’o. He just doesn’t have the speed and athleticism to do what he was trying to do.
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10-30-2017, 07:50 AM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by rezburna
The one from inside the five yard line? The one where Williams had to work Jordan against the sideline? No, that was on Onyemata, and it's not the first time that's he's blown his gap assignment. And he needs to be told to not celebrate plays when he got gashed like that in the same game...
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10-29-2017, 11:19 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by rezburna
Grambeaux disappeared in big games. And there was too much emphasis on getting him the ball, even forcing it in. Coleman is coming around.
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10-29-2017, 11:09 PM
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Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint
We need a Mlb. manti teo just not producing enough when he is in there. I don't know if it has anything to do with less snap plays in game situations or his diagnosis of plays is slow. I did notice when they moved Robertson to mlb and dropped Vacarro into wlb they slowed down that rushing attack
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