If you could pick any two players...

4saintspirit · 04-12-2005, 02:02 PM

All this Peyton Manning junk is making me sick. In a way, he\'s Brooks, good stats, cant win big games........

Granted I kno he has a better head on his shoulders than Brooks, but I wouldnt want Manning at all. I\'d take so many others over him. Why is it that no one has said Brady?

Because Brady is a product of coaching and the team around him. Put him on a lot of other teams and he would be above average but nothing special -- put Manning on any team and he would be special. Also --- Manning cannot win the big games -- he is still young -- took Elway a long time to win the big one -- you think he stinks -- Marino -- does he suck ---

GoldenTomb · 04-12-2005, 02:10 PM

All this Peyton Manning junk is making me sick. In a way, he\'s Brooks, good stats, cant win big games........

Granted I kno he has a better head on his shoulders than Brooks, but I wouldnt want Manning at all. I\'d take so many others over him. Why is it that no one has said Brady?

OMG.... :casstet:

The only thing Manning has in common with Brooks is that they both breathe oxygen. Apparently AB doesn\'t breathe enough of it.

How would u call Brooks stats good??? And even if u call them good, how can u compare them to 49 TDs, 9 INTs??? I can accept if u say that you don\'t like Manning, but it\'s probably all personal feelings toward him. How can you hate his game???

My two players would be Peyton and Ray Lewis, btw.

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by GoldenTomb]

saintsfan1313 · 04-12-2005, 02:18 PM

Hold on, are u saying the Patriots have more talent than the Colts? I beleive there are quite a few big names on the Colts offense. I think If you throw Brooks into Indy, his numbers would be pretty great too. I think Brady gets the most out of his players, Manning was given a line up of superstars. I think we can all agree we need a leader not a stat-star.

saintswhodi · 04-12-2005, 02:24 PM

Wow. Just wow. AB as good as Peyton? Why did this thread have to go there? Wow. I guess when Edge James had his knee blown out before they got Stokley and Marvin Harrison was the only threat Peyton got handed a bunch of weapons then too? 5 words, un-be-lie-va-ble. Possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Possibly. AB isn\'t as good as Eli Manning let alone Peyton. Come on.

GoldenTomb · 04-12-2005, 02:28 PM

Hold on, are u saying the Patriots have more talent than the Colts? I beleive there are quite a few big names on the Colts offense. I think If you throw Brooks into Indy, his numbers would be pretty great too. I think Brady gets the most out of his players, Manning was given a line up of superstars. I think we can all agree we need a leader not a stat-star.

Wouldn\'t be as good as Manning\'s because Brooks has no touch on his passes. Peyton hits a LOT of deep routes, which Brooks has proven he can\'t hit at all. Brooks\'s best pass is that 5 to 10 yard bullet. Plus Manning is allowed to audible at will on the line of scrimmage. They wouldn\'t give Brooks that privlege because he couldn\'t handle it. Not only that, they probably couldn\'t understand his bad grammar.

But we digress....

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by GoldenTomb]

saintswhodi · 04-12-2005, 02:34 PM

Ya know GT, I really should learn to just ignore statements like that. The original thought of this thread was pretty good. But I knew when a lot of people went with QBs, I figured someone was gonna have a problem, never thought the argument would be that outlandish though. I hope this thread goes back to people simply picking who they think would help, cause I liked the idea. It was much more enjoyable when people weren\'t being critical of other\'s choices.

saintsfan1313 · 04-12-2005, 02:37 PM

Ok, everyone is missing what I am saying. Ok, Brooks and not an equally good as Manning, Im no saying that. What I am saying is, this is jumping back into the damn stats debate again. Simply put like this:

Manning has Touchdowns in season record
Brady has 2 superbowl rings and leadership

Which one is gunna help your team?

Danno · 04-12-2005, 02:38 PM

Wow. Just wow. AB as good as Peyton?

Well, maybe in anthropology. MAYBE.

saintswhodi · 04-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Danno, I heard AB can play a mean game of dominoes too. I would dare to say he is probably BETTER than Peyton at dominoes. How\'s that grab ya?

saintswhodi · 04-12-2005, 03:08 PM

Manning has Touchdowns in season record
Brady has 2 superbowl rings and leadership

Which one is gunna help your team?

I think what GT is saying, and I would have to agree, if you put Manning on the Pats, they still have 3 rings. Put Brady on the Colts and you would have the same team, if not slightly worse. I don\'t wanna get into the whole Brady is a system QB thing, cause I think he is a very good QB, But the system and TEAM works to his advantage. People complain about our D 24-7, and Peyton\'s is just as bad and in some categories worse. And Brady couldn\'t change that. But Peyton could have 3 rings if he was Pats QB.

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by saintswhodi]

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by saintswhodi]

04-12-2005, 02:02 PM	#11
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	If you could pick any two players... All this Peyton Manning junk is making me sick. In a way, he\'s Brooks, good stats, cant win big games........ Granted I kno he has a better head on his shoulders than Brooks, but I wouldnt want Manning at all. I\'d take so many others over him. Why is it that no one has said Brady? Because Brady is a product of coaching and the team around him. Put him on a lot of other teams and he would be above average but nothing special -- put Manning on any team and he would be special. Also --- Manning cannot win the big games -- he is still young -- took Elway a long time to win the big one -- you think he stinks -- Marino -- does he suck ---
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04-12-2005, 02:10 PM	#12
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	If you could pick any two players... All this Peyton Manning junk is making me sick. In a way, he\'s Brooks, good stats, cant win big games........ Granted I kno he has a better head on his shoulders than Brooks, but I wouldnt want Manning at all. I\'d take so many others over him. Why is it that no one has said Brady? OMG.... :casstet: The only thing Manning has in common with Brooks is that they both breathe oxygen. Apparently AB doesn\'t breathe enough of it. How would u call Brooks stats good??? And even if u call them good, how can u compare them to 49 TDs, 9 INTs??? I can accept if u say that you don\'t like Manning, but it\'s probably all personal feelings toward him. How can you hate his game??? My two players would be Peyton and Ray Lewis, btw. [Edited on 12/4/2005 by GoldenTomb]
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04-12-2005, 02:18 PM	#13
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	If you could pick any two players... Hold on, are u saying the Patriots have more talent than the Colts? I beleive there are quite a few big names on the Colts offense. I think If you throw Brooks into Indy, his numbers would be pretty great too. I think Brady gets the most out of his players, Manning was given a line up of superstars. I think we can all agree we need a leader not a stat-star.

04-12-2005, 02:24 PM	#14
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If you could pick any two players... Wow. Just wow. AB as good as Peyton? Why did this thread have to go there? Wow. I guess when Edge James had his knee blown out before they got Stokley and Marvin Harrison was the only threat Peyton got handed a bunch of weapons then too? 5 words, un-be-lie-va-ble. Possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Possibly. AB isn\'t as good as Eli Manning let alone Peyton. Come on.

04-12-2005, 02:28 PM	#15
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	If you could pick any two players... Hold on, are u saying the Patriots have more talent than the Colts? I beleive there are quite a few big names on the Colts offense. I think If you throw Brooks into Indy, his numbers would be pretty great too. I think Brady gets the most out of his players, Manning was given a line up of superstars. I think we can all agree we need a leader not a stat-star. Wouldn\'t be as good as Manning\'s because Brooks has no touch on his passes. Peyton hits a LOT of deep routes, which Brooks has proven he can\'t hit at all. Brooks\'s best pass is that 5 to 10 yard bullet. Plus Manning is allowed to audible at will on the line of scrimmage. They wouldn\'t give Brooks that privlege because he couldn\'t handle it. Not only that, they probably couldn\'t understand his bad grammar. But we digress.... [Edited on 12/4/2005 by GoldenTomb]
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04-12-2005, 02:34 PM	#16
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If you could pick any two players... Ya know GT, I really should learn to just ignore statements like that. The original thought of this thread was pretty good. But I knew when a lot of people went with QBs, I figured someone was gonna have a problem, never thought the argument would be that outlandish though. I hope this thread goes back to people simply picking who they think would help, cause I liked the idea. It was much more enjoyable when people weren\'t being critical of other\'s choices.

04-12-2005, 02:37 PM	#17
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	If you could pick any two players... Ok, everyone is missing what I am saying. Ok, Brooks and not an equally good as Manning, Im no saying that. What I am saying is, this is jumping back into the damn stats debate again. Simply put like this: Manning has Touchdowns in season record Brady has 2 superbowl rings and leadership Which one is gunna help your team?

04-12-2005, 02:38 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	If you could pick any two players... Wow. Just wow. AB as good as Peyton? Well, maybe in anthropology. MAYBE.

04-12-2005, 03:06 PM	#19
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If you could pick any two players... Danno, I heard AB can play a mean game of dominoes too. I would dare to say he is probably BETTER than Peyton at dominoes. How\'s that grab ya?

04-12-2005, 03:08 PM	#20
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If you could pick any two players... Manning has Touchdowns in season record Brady has 2 superbowl rings and leadership Which one is gunna help your team? I think what GT is saying, and I would have to agree, if you put Manning on the Pats, they still have 3 rings. Put Brady on the Colts and you would have the same team, if not slightly worse. I don\'t wanna get into the whole Brady is a system QB thing, cause I think he is a very good QB, But the system and TEAM works to his advantage. People complain about our D 24-7, and Peyton\'s is just as bad and in some categories worse. And Brady couldn\'t change that. But Peyton could have 3 rings if he was Pats QB. [Edited on 12/4/2005 by saintswhodi] [Edited on 12/4/2005 by saintswhodi]